Posted 25 May 2020 - 05:18 PM
I've stayed out of this conversation the last week or so for various reasons. The fact that an offer is actually being discussed and there is a real chance for baseball being played...though I haven't found exact details...lead me to catch up on this thread and comment. Again, I take no sides here. I have offered, and will offer, comment and opinion that could lead someone to believe that I indeed am on either side of the aisle. That is not the case. I simply try to look at the work, this situation, as logically as I can.
First, while a few players have made some comments that I can only describe as outrageous considering society and the world as a whole right now, attempting to attribute those comments and opinions to all players is also very wrong and outrageous.
Second, while the players will not make as much $ with baseball in 2020, they will not lose money. Unless they are mortgaged to the hip, in which case something is better than nothing. I have also objected to the arguement that they have to earn ever dollar they can as their career is so short. Every player has the ability to invest, seek out expert advice, and then find something else to do with their life after they are done playing, even if it doesn't involve earning hundreds of thousands or millions of $.
Thirdly, unlike the very old days of MLB, owners don't make a living/income from MLB. Until or unless they sell a franchise years down the road,the vast majority of owners may make money, but it is their other businesses that support their life and their families, albeit in a way none of us can understand or comprehend. So no-one should feel sorry for owners losing money in 2020 or suddenly hitting the skids. But at the same time, said owners are probably losing money in their other investments, and that's a very real thing in our society/world.
Why should we care? Maybe we shouldn't. Maybe it's not important. But we as fans, and the players who are paid by the owners, and the milb players, and the hot dog and beer guy who is hoping baseball comes back AT LEAST in 2021 to some sense of normalcy, we might care about the future of the game beyond 2020 and how stable it is.
Fourth, and part of point 3 as well as point 2, simple logic and intelligence should make it clear the owners ARE going to lose $ in 2020 regardless. Now, even without fans, there are some teams like N.Y. or L.A., etc, that might not due to media deals, merchandising and pure nation wide support. And maybe this profit sharing idea helps mitigate the losses of Minnesota, K.C. And others. I don't know the details. And while the financial numbers posted here by others in very intelligent arguments may not be 100% spot on, there seems to be a general truth to what is presented.
But is it so far fetched to believe the owners are willing to take a loss on their MLB franchises, mitigated by a new agreement, for the health of their sport for 2021 and beyond? Again, ego and fun is the reason these billionaires own these franchises. They spend massive amounts of $ to purchase these franchises and see profit from them, absolutely, but don't enjoy any huge payday until years later if and when they sell said franchise. The context is absurdly different, but still similar to any of us making an investment over time and cashing in years down the road.
In conclusion, it is up to both sides to find a solution that works for 2020, not just financially but logistically. If anyone wants to sit out and not play due to health concerns, I believe they have that right to do so. They forfeit their salary, but they should not be chastised or blackmailed from playing again. That crosses a line, financially, morally and legally I don't think anyone is really prepared to deal with.
Salary cap with a floor...something other sports have...be damned. BOTH SIDES have a lot to lose and so much to gain! And I'm not just talking about making $ or losing less. I'm talking about the health of the sport in 2021 and beyond, especially with another labor deal pending. It's easy to be flippant and say blow it all up, but that is just not practical for anyone involved.
Now, to me, the onus is on management at this juncture. And I don't just mean for 2020. Just be smart and act in good faith. There is greed and want from both sides. But maybe this is the perfect time for 20 owners, approximately, to show some backbone and step up to the plate...yes, an obvious pun...and challenge the other 10 owners, with or without Manfred, and look at the good of the future of the game. Cap, no cap, if you're willing to share more equitably for 2020 between yourselves, and the players, then why can't you do so going forward?
If the basic financial floor of MLB going forward was more balanced, the game grows as more teams can compete year to year. You're telling me that doesn't pique the interest of fans and TV watchers everywhere and gate receipts? Remember, there are watchers, listeners, beer and dog consumers, and jersey/hat purchasing fans across this country besides L.A. and N.Y. and Boston and Chicago.
I'm talking about long term investment in the sport itself. You're telling me there is no market for "game of the week" between the Dodgers and the Padres if both teams are competitive? ALL the various networks thrive on viewership. Point is, growing the sport. Perfect time for the owners to step forward for the good of the league and make it stronger. The players could only benefit with further growth as well.
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