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#21 jkcarew

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Posted 08 January 2020 - 05:33 PM

First, two questions....

How would you ever justify trading a prospect?

Did you steal this list from the Twins FO? :)

 

Good idea, but the exercise seems a bit ambiguous without a time-frame around the championship you are 'visioning'. Is a championship in 2025 worth more than a championship in 2020? By this list, it would appear so. Are two likely years of championship competition in 2020-2021 worth as much as three or four hypothetical years of competition in 2024-2027? Not by this ranking. Does Sano's standing (for instance) predict an unlikelihood that he has an extended tenure with the Twins? Apparently so. In short, I think the list is severely biased toward unrealistically rosey projections for a big group of prospects. It's next to impossible that this number of prospects prove to be BOTH this good AND retained by the Twins for 'extended' contributions to championship windows.


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Posted 08 January 2020 - 06:49 PM

 

He was DEVELOPED into the real deal.

 

Garver still not getting credit he has always deserved. More like Garver developed himself. Do you really think that if Garver had been picked by many other teams, that he would not have worked to be who he is now, just the same? The Twins didn't develop him, Garver developed himself, and he was the best of the two (Turner) when he was drafted, too. He was Johnny Bench runner up, after all. You don't get that if you don't already have good defense in college. The talking heads and the TD writers always deferred to Turner, too. And the Twins always kept Garver behind Turner in the promotions, even though he was killing it on offense. This could have happened at least a year before it did, if not held back, I think. Years were wasted holding him back.


#23 mikelink45

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Posted 09 January 2020 - 05:09 PM

https://www.espn.com...-era-just-begun Wow - Eddie just ranked 9th among LF in Buster Olney's ranking series. 


#24 birdwatcher

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Posted 10 January 2020 - 05:22 PM

 

Garver still not getting credit he has always deserved. More like Garver developed himself. Do you really think that if Garver had been picked by many other teams, that he would not have worked to be who he is now, just the same? The Twins didn't develop him, Garver developed himself, and he was the best of the two (Turner) when he was drafted, too. He was Johnny Bench runner up, after all. You don't get that if you don't already have good defense in college. The talking heads and the TD writers always deferred to Turner, too. And the Twins always kept Garver behind Turner in the promotions, even though he was killing it on offense. This could have happened at least a year before it did, if not held back, I think. Years were wasted holding him back.

 

Of course Garver deserves most of the credit or his own progress, that goes without saying for most of us.

 

The Yankees just hired Tanner Swanson away from the Twins. The reason? He's developed a rep as an innovative catching coach. To say the Twins had nothing to do with his development, as you are suggesting, is utter nonsense. 

 

If you went back and read the scouting reports, you'd know that Turner possessed better skills. What's clear now, is that Garver possessed greater athleticism and raw talent. If you went back and read various reports about Garver during his years in the minors, all the way up to his promotion to MLB, you'd know that there were serious and lingering questions as to whether his defensive skills were adequately improved. So again, your claim that Garver came out of college with "good defensive skills" is bogus.




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