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#21 sweetmusicviola16

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Posted 18 November 2019 - 01:12 PM

 

This would be a great way to turn a 101 win team that is a contender, into a team fighting to get to 80 wins. Don't play this game. Don't let the Twins way get to you. Why would you want to get rid of young starting players on your team when this core is primed to win now?

 

Hate to break it to you, but take that top 10 prospect list and there is maybe 1-2 that turn out better than anyone on your starting 9 right now. I have never seen fans of a team that is in the middle of their competitive window clamor so much to trade players from their starting lineup. 

 

It has to be the Pohlad beating that our fans have taken for so many years that cause this. So far we have heard people wanting to move Rosario, Berrios, Kepler, Polanco, and now even Cruz. I just don't understand it. We should be adding to this core, not subtracting from it. The only way I move a starter from my lineup is if it is a package that involves a #1-2 starter. That's it. 

My sentiments. 2020 is not the year to start selling off the pieces we've been waiting for for the past decade. That includes Sano and Buxton as well. Sign Cole or Strasburg. And Ryu and have a great rotation. We don't need steps backward.

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Posted 18 November 2019 - 01:27 PM

 

This would be a great way to turn a 101 win team that is a contender, into a team fighting to get to 80 wins. Don't play this game. Don't let the Twins way get to you. Why would you want to get rid of young starting players on your team when this core is primed to win now?

 

Hate to break it to you, but take that top 10 prospect list and there is maybe 1-2 that turn out better than anyone on your starting 9 right now. I have never seen fans of a team that is in the middle of their competitive window clamor so much to trade players from their starting lineup. 

 

It has to be the Pohlad beating that our fans have taken for so many years that cause this. So far we have heard people wanting to move Rosario, Berrios, Kepler, Polanco, and now even Cruz. I just don't understand it. We should be adding to this core, not subtracting from it. The only way I move a starter from my lineup is if it is a package that involves a #1-2 starter. That's it. 

Up to a point I agree with you, but ultimately you have to ask what is the most important missing ingredient and how do we get it.I suspect there are few fans who do not see pitching as the essential ingredient.

 

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Posted 18 November 2019 - 04:09 PM

All boils down to one thing. Will the Twins spend the money on top Free Agents. Again, I remind you and everyone else out there. The reason Target Field was built was to add revenue so this organization could be competitive in the Free Agent market. 

 

We do not have to trade anyone if they spend the money on Free Agents. Cole, Strasburg(maybe), Ryu, Wheeler, Bumgarner, Gonzalez, Hamels, Keuchel are all possibilities that would improve the rotation.

 

Time for the new Stadium to pay for itself and the Pohlads to put their money where their mouth is!

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Posted 18 November 2019 - 04:29 PM

 

Well, if they were willing to do it for Buxton, Rosario plus a top 5 prospect beats that, IMO. But perhaps their intentions have changed.

 

They may have changed or they may have been a fib to keep their intentions of trading for starting pitching, not trading away, was kept obscure.


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Posted 18 November 2019 - 04:41 PM

They may not be premium prospects like Kirilloff and Lewis, but I’m confident that Cave, Gordon, and Rooker will all be discussed frequently in trade talks this offseason.

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Posted 18 November 2019 - 05:33 PM

See Berrios and Odorizzi as a solid #2 and #3, in whichever order they determine next spring.Got to get someone like Wheeler who can come in and be an acceptable #1.

 

The trade I see is something similar to when they got Odorizzi, ie, get someone as #4.Hopefully, they can do this again...get someone none of us are talking about with at least two years of control for a prospect or two outside the top half dozen or top ten.

 

As for who would be coming or going, not a clude.That's what the FO gets the big bucks for. 

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Posted 18 November 2019 - 06:13 PM

 

They may not be premium prospects like Kirilloff and Lewis, but I’m confident that Cave, Gordon, and Rooker will all be discussed frequently in trade talks this offseason.

Those 3 won't get you much.....

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Posted 18 November 2019 - 06:25 PM

 

They may not be premium prospects like Kirilloff and Lewis, but I’m confident that Cave, Gordon, and Rooker will all be discussed frequently in trade talks this offseason.

Don't expect much if that is all you are willing to part with.Those aren't the names anyone is going to come asking about

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Posted 18 November 2019 - 07:21 PM

Resign Cron
Sign 2 best FA SPs you can + Alex Wood
Sign Pomeranz
Sign good backup C

No need to trade folks off of a 101 win team. Starting pitching is what wins Championships though, so go get 2-3 better ones than last year. The prospects coming up will fill in for injuries that occur throughout the season. No need to gut your system with the quality SP FA class this year. Breathe people. Breathe.

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Posted 18 November 2019 - 07:53 PM

Wheeler and Graterol with Odorizzi and Berrios - then find the fifth component - Dobnak, Smeltzer...


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Posted 18 November 2019 - 09:15 PM

Brusdar Graterol MIN for Gregory Polanco PIT


we lose some immediate RP depth and possibly SP help down the road if they stretched graterol out. But gain a impact bat and huge defensive upgrade at LF over Eddie Rosario.

Trade Eddie Rosario MIN for bullpen help.

Anyone will do

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Posted 18 November 2019 - 10:07 PM

The red Sox win the world series, and brought back the team.... It doesn't always work out. Teams don't always get better, or even stay the same.

That out of the way....I predict a decent sized trade of multiple prospects for a pitcher with at least two years of control left.

I'd consider sending Buxton and change to Atlanta for a AAA pitcher the FO loves and their AAA third baseman, if they sign a third baseman.
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It's been a fun year so far, GO Twins. 


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Posted 18 November 2019 - 10:38 PM

Would anyone think a trade of Miguel Sano and 2 prospects from #6 on to Atlanta for Christian Pache and Kyle Wright or Ian Anderson works? Fun to watch Sano though. I'm finding it hard to be serious about trades without knowing how other teams value our players. At this point it is all ideas, and prospects don't really compare well with players that have performed and are part of the core team. I also considered a trade of Garver and Gonzalez plus 2 prospects from #6 on to Cincy for Luis Castillo. This also seems unlikely for them. They do need a catcher that hits and could really use a player like Marwin. Just ideas ..


#34 rv78

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Posted 19 November 2019 - 07:10 AM

Keep our prospects. Sign Rendon at 3B and Cron at 1B. Trade Sano, Buxton, Rosario and Polonco for Pitching. Move Kepler to CF. Bring up Kirilloff and Larnach to play LF and RF and Lewis to play SS.

Pitching wins Championships. What did the HR record get us anyway. Not a Championship! The juiced ball will slowly go away and this team, the way it is, has a hard time manufacturing runs without the long ball. 


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Posted 19 November 2019 - 08:26 AM

 

if your best is a number 3 in a post-season competitive team,you are better of trading him for someone who would be a number 1...This team needs 2 starters better than Berrios to compete in the post-season, and Odorizzi can slide at number 3 without much drop from Berrios

 

Why would a team trade a #1 for a #3? The only reason a team trades a legit #1 SP is for a haul of prospects or prospects plus salary relief.

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Posted 19 November 2019 - 08:45 AM

Per sweetmusicviola," My sentiments. 2020 is not the year to start selling off the pieces we've been waiting for for the past decade. That includes Sano and Buxton as well. Sign Cole or Strasburg. And Ryu and have a great rotation. We don't need steps backward."

 

Bang Boom. Couldn't agree more except for the fact that Strasburg and Cole are out of the picture unless either one would agree to the Twins' terms. If the Twins agree to their agents' terms heaven help the Twins. Twins have to be able to find a reliable starting pitcher somewhere. If Pineda comes back and Gibson comes back healthy they could still have a competitive rotation with one sensible addition.

2020 has to be the year that both Buxton and Sano put in an entire season to see what they really can do over 162 games. If either one doesn't show up at Fort Myers ready to go shame on the Twins.

Other than that keep as much of the team that won 101 games and go for it.

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Posted 19 November 2019 - 01:50 PM

 

Brusdar Graterol MIN for Gregory Polanco PIT


we lose some immediate RP depth and possibly SP help down the road if they stretched graterol out. But gain a impact bat and huge defensive upgrade at LF over Eddie Rosario.

Trade Eddie Rosario MIN for bullpen help.

Anyone will do

 

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Not an impact bat! Rosario is a much better player than he is. 

This is a net loss of the nth degree here. Plus you are giving up one of, if not your best pitching prospect for him! Heck no.

Edited by Battle ur tail off, 19 November 2019 - 01:52 PM.

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#38 Battle ur tail off

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Posted 19 November 2019 - 01:56 PM

 

Keep our prospects. Sign Rendon at 3B and Cron at 1B. Trade Sano, Buxton, Rosario and Polonco for Pitching. Move Kepler to CF. Bring up Kirilloff and Larnach to play LF and RF and Lewis to play SS.

Pitching wins Championships. What did the HR record get us anyway. Not a Championship! The juiced ball will slowly go away and this team, the way it is, has a hard time manufacturing runs without the long ball. 

 

Also BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

 

Trade away half your starting lineup for who exactly? 

 

Start 3 rookies that haven't even hit AA or AAA pitching yet. Increase your strikeouts, errors and HRs, and decrease your OBP, SLG, defensive range, and veteran prescense. Hmmmm?

Edited by Battle ur tail off, 19 November 2019 - 01:57 PM.

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Posted 19 November 2019 - 02:28 PM

I think the biggest decision that needs to be made is by the Twins ownership. 

 

Do we a)commit to building on a 101 win season and the financial resources needed for that commitment or b)go back to playing it half way.

 

I think the Twins kept their fans in continuous purgatory for almost a decade because insted of committing to a full rebuild mode they always played it half way. While I did not see the 2019 101 wins (nor did anyone really otherwise why did the Twins trade Ryan Pressley and others at the 2018 deadline), playing it half way could just send us back to reality when we don't have a season were every hitter has a career year.

 

While I don't see the Cole/Strasboug signings, I think they need to make another $15-20 million commitment on a starting pitcher and another for a position player, preferably a 3B.Then they can make some more middle of the road moves by trading some 2nd element prospects/Rosario to get a closer.

 

Make a commitment to Graterol as a part of the rotation.

 

I think that would be a very good team.

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Posted 19 November 2019 - 02:48 PM

 

Brusdar Graterol MIN for Gregory Polanco PIT


we lose some immediate RP depth and possibly SP help down the road if they stretched graterol out. But gain a impact bat and huge defensive upgrade at LF over Eddie Rosario.

Trade Eddie Rosario MIN for bullpen help.

Anyone will do

 

Polanco is a DH playing the outfield in the NL and still guaranteed 24M while only once being an above average batter. I think Pittsburgh would give him away if someone would take his whole salary.

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