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#41 insagt1

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 06:13 AM

The gloom is warranted...if you are a fan, and winning is important. If not, different story. Why SHOULDN'T fans be very disappointed at what we just saw, if winning in post season is important. Post season finishes off the regular season. Its what they all play for. Its harder to win in October than April for many reasons. Some organizations just do it a lot better than others.

 

Its good that you can't point a finger at just one player for this failure. Almost all of them contributed. Their bats turned to sawdust with runners on. The strikeouts mounted so fast you could barely keep track of them. The bullpen that was so terrific second half, all went to hell in a handbasket. Rogers, Romo, May, Duffey...they all failed when asked to hold the line. The stage was too big for Dobnak. The manager lifted Berrios way too soon. Littell's inexperience got the better of him. Kepler played hurt and looked awful...hitless. Garver suddenly stopped hitting. Sano fanned 8 of 12 times and hit a weak pop up in a spot that could have broken the game open early. He looked like Sano 2018. Even Cruz did not have the series we hoped he would have. They put Adrianza on the roster and kept Turtle off....and then never played Adrianza? Castro probably would have whiffed as many times as Garver.

 

No 100 win team should ever be embarrassed the way the Twins were. Some will argue this really isn't a 100 win team. Well it was, making the playoff failure feel even worse. But the time to 'feel happy', proud...etc about the regular season is not right now. Maybe in a few weeks. But not now. How our manager can say he's happy, right now, just doesn't make any sense.

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#42 laloesch

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 06:26 AM

 

But you're not playing all teams from the other divisions; you're playing the best. Our winning percentage against "winning" teams was below .500. 

 

BINGO. Let's face it the Twins feasted on the cellar dwellers and struggled against decent competition. Until this team can consistently beat good teams (aka acquire some decent starting pitching for heavens sake), and find a manager (Maddon is available, go get him!) that is interested in running this team with some fire and spirit and not coddling these guys like it's a daycare / spa this will be the result. 

 

There is absolutely NO excuse for a 101 win team to play like this in three straight games and not come close to pulling off one win. I've been watching Twins baseball for a long long time and this was totally PATHETIC!

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 06:31 AM

The 2nd inning was so painful. Bases loaded, no outs, and came up empty. I was thinking about turning off the TV then because they had no chance to win after that deflating effort. Probably should have so I wouldn't be so tired today.
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Posted 08 October 2019 - 06:37 AM

 

The 2nd inning was so painful. Bases loaded, no outs, and came up empty. I was thinking about turning off the TV then because they had no chance to win after that deflating effort. Probably should have so I wouldn't be so tired today.

 

I did turn it off then, and just watched via MLB GameCast while browsing YouTube videos of my favorite comedians. It was too painful to watch and it just seemed like I was punishing myself for no reason.

 

I've never felt worse about watching this team all season. Pretty sad that so many of us literally could not watch this game due to depression/anxiety/frustration.


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Posted 08 October 2019 - 06:41 AM

I think Rocco and his players saw the weather forecast and decided it was time to end the season and get back to their winter homes down south. They embarrassed themselves and their fans. I have been through many ups and downs with this team over the decades and I don't remember a time where they just completely laid down like this during a playoff series. Pathetic!

I can't stand Rocco's press conferences. Say what you want about Gardy. At least he gave the impression he cared.
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#46 LewFordLives

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 06:41 AM

I think Rocco and his players saw the weather forecast and decided it was time to end the season and get back to their winter homes down south. They embarrassed themselves and their fans. I have been through many ups and downs with this team over the decades and I don't remember a time where they just completely laid down like this during a playoff series. Pathetic!

I can't stand Rocco's press conferences. Say what you want about Gardy. At least he gave the impression he cared.

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 06:43 AM

 

 

Graterol better not be seen as a bullpen pitcher or I'm done.

 

I picked this out of your rant because I agree with you.Well, I won't be "done" but I certainly think Graterol should be seen as a potential starter for this team. Sure hope the Twins brass agrees.

 

We need a great player to come alive and spark this team. Right now we have lots of decent guys, but not a truly transcending player (aka: Acuna, Lindor, Scherzer, Bellinger, Verlander, etc). Buxton was supposed to be that guy, but he's not, and the Twins can't make the next step without a true winner on this team.

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 06:55 AM

I hear the term around baseball playoffs being whichever team gets hot can win it all. Well getting hot means doing the right things to win and I am dissapointed because even though this team did not have great pitching, the defense and hitting really let the team down. Clean up the defense in game one and the questionable pitching changes and that one could have been a W.

This to me was the biggest stat:

RISP

Game 1: 1 for 9

Game 2: 1 for 7

Game 3 : 1 for 12

Not sure if it was being in love with home runs or just well executed pitches by the Yankees but the Twins failed to deliver with productive at bats when it mattered.

 

Anyway I loved the season and the community here. Will be following the offseason closely and Go Gophers!

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#49 AceWrigley

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 07:05 AM

Great season, bad post season. I picture all diehard Twins fans in Minnesota all walking around looking like the deer caught in the headlights this morning.

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 07:06 AM

 

I hear the term around baseball playoffs being whichever team gets hot can win it all. Well getting hot means doing the right things to win and I am dissapointed because even though this team did not have great pitching, the defense and hitting really let the team down. Clean up the defense in game one and the questionable pitching changes and that one could have been a W.

This to me was the biggest stat:

RISP

Game 1: 1 for 9

Game 2: 1 for 7

Game 3 : 1 for 12

Not sure if it was being in love with home runs or just well executed pitches by the Yankees but the Twins failed to deliver with productive at bats when it mattered.

 

Anyway I loved the season and the community here. Will be following the offseason closely and Go Gophers!

And the "1" in the "1 for 12" in game three didn't produce a run. That was Arraez' soft single to left, to load the bases in the 2nd inning, 

 

 

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 07:08 AM

 

16 straight losses. Let that sink in.

Take it back to the second game of the ALCS with the Angels in 2002 and the Twins have lost 23 out of 25 playoff games (including the 2017 WC game).

 

Isn't that just about statistically impossible?

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 07:09 AM

Hit dingers. Never bunt.

#53 mdonaghue

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 07:13 AM

Completely disappointed.No one remembers if you don't win it all.The Twins senior management has the long-time Red Sox/Cubs approach - if we field a team that is competitive in the regular season, people will show up.We've made our money, who cares about championships?

 

If they were serious about winning - they would have picked up some serious starting pitching, told Buxton to stay at AAA until he figures out how to avoid crashing into walls (injuries keep him off the field - if he can't play, he doesn't help the team), and hired a manager who knows how to run a bullpen.Baldelli seems to be just like Gardenhire in that regard - completely indefensible bullpen moves.  

 

The real issue, though, is not showing up to play in the playoffs.Baldelli took Molitor's guys, had a DH added to the mix (who had a great year), and rode them to 101 wins.And, then he has the gall to say that he isn't disappointed.  

 

In the real world, Baldelli would be fired for that performance and statement.He's clueless.

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 07:14 AM

The game of baseball teeters in the strike zone. In all three games it was obvious the empire's slanted the strike zone in the Yankees favored. Smoltz mention this in game 2 from the broadcast booth. the best thing that could happen to bring more parity into MLB is electronic balls and strikes... Especially in the playoffs. do you think mlb or any of the networks want to see Minnesota and the Nationals in the world series... NNY is a superior team but Minnesota never even had a chance... It was like the outcome was decided before the games were even played.
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#55 tarheeltwinsfan

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 07:21 AM

It is going to be a long, cold winter, even here in North Carolina.


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Posted 08 October 2019 - 07:22 AM

 

Fun fact, the Twins winning percentage versus the AL divisions:

 

ALC: 66%

ALW: 68%

ALE: 63%

 

That seems pretty much like a team that just beat other teams.

32-37 against teams over .500.The only playoff team with a losing record in those games.

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#57 spycake

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 07:27 AM

 

The 2nd inning was so painful. Bases loaded, no outs, and came up empty.

I thought it was interesting choice by the director, meant to evoke memories of the Phil Cuzzi inning in 2009 which had the same result.

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 07:29 AM

 

and Go Gophers!

Too bad baseball doesn't have a "Quick Lane Bowl" :)

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#59 SpicyGarvSauce

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 07:44 AM

 

Being at this game, this fan base is pathetic. They cheer cheer cheer every terrible bullpen pitcher when they announce his name, and they stand with blank looks in the urinal line during the game rather than being pissed off at how terrible this team played.

 

Then after the game the resounding opinion is "well shoot it was a fun season and they weren't supposed to be this good."

 

Not only does this team not know how to win, this fan base doesn't know how to expect winning.

This is the same fan base that was chanting "over-rated" when Aaron Judge was at the plate.

 

Yeah, clueless.


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Posted 08 October 2019 - 07:50 AM

But you're not playing all teams from the other divisions; you're playing the best. Our winning percentage against "winning" teams was below .500.

And the Red Sox were a good team who are saddeled in a division with two great teams. If you traded the two Sox teams, I would wager that you would have seen more wins by the Red Sox and fewer by the White Sox.

The numbers you've posted are interesting, but for this discussion who we did against divisions writ large is unimportant. How we did against playoff teams is, and the Yankees and Rays did a number on us while we got a series win against the 'Stros.

I think there's a good analog to my college team, Villanova. The Big East is good competition, but it's not the Big 10 or the ACC. And 2016 and 2018 excepted, it shows in the tournament.

The Twins were 5-2 against Tampa.
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