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#21 Hosken Bombo Disco

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Posted 05 October 2019 - 08:52 PM

Did you have a better idea than Dobnak?

Against a tough Toronto lineup, Cleveland started Ryan Merritt in game five of the 2016 ALCS. Four plus shutout innings. Cleveland is where Falvey came from. I thought he or someone in the Twins front office might have an idea or something up their sleeve for this one.

With Dobnak, I assumed the Twins had a plan. How to pitch to the Yankees with the stuff Dobnak has. “Once through the order” or something, then someone else. The process they used during the season of following one pitcher with another type of pitcher. Or that Dobnak had the best chance out of their six-plus other guys like Smeltzer, Perez, Graterol, Thorpe, whoever.
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Posted 05 October 2019 - 08:54 PM

Okay, let's start talking about 2020. Dobnak, Littell, Duffey and the boys should burn this drubbing into their memories. Don't forget the bitterness, the embarrassment, the humiliation, etc. Instead, use those awful feelings to bolster your resolve to become far tougher next year. It is time to murder, dismember and bury all the emotional vulnerabilities you brought to this humiliating mismatch. Time to get tougher than rawhide. Time to chew nails and spit out carpet tacks. 

 

I don't care if next year's team sets a record for home runs. What I don't want to see is a Twins squad that can't field their positions. I don't want to see Twins pitchers throwing meatballs down the middle, or issuing free passes to hitters. I also don't want to see enemy hitters leaning out over the plate without getting a 95 mph reminder why you don't do that to Twins pitchers. 

 

Enough Minnesota Nice. Time for the baseball world to find out what Minnesota Mean looks like. 

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Posted 05 October 2019 - 08:54 PM

Well. Pineda, Gibson, and Perez were not options. And this front office passed on Corbin and Keuchel. You'll love next year's starters!


Isn't Odorizzi still on this team?
Starting a guy who was driving an Uber last year, in a must win game in Yankee Stadium was preposterous.
Once again, saving players for situations that may never arise. I don't get it. Odorizzi doesn't even get a start until the series is, for all intents and purposes, over.
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Posted 05 October 2019 - 08:56 PM

Against a tough Toronto lineup, Cleveland started Ryan Merritt in game five of the 2016 ALCS. Four plus shutout innings. Cleveland is where Falvey came from. I thought he or someone in the Twins front office might have an idea or something up their sleeve for this one.

With Dobnak, I assumed the Twins had a plan. How to pitch to the Yankees with the stuff Dobnak has. “Once through the order” or something, then someone else. The process they used during the season of following one pitcher with another type of pitcher. Or that Dobnak had the best chance out of their six-plus other guys like Smeltzer, Perez, Graterol, Thorpe, whoever.


What kind of plan were you expecting? You can't put lipstick on a pig.
I'm happy for Dobnak, great story for him and his family, but depending on him in a must win game is a joke.
There is no possible plan for a pitcher incapable of getting outs.
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Posted 05 October 2019 - 08:59 PM

I expected the pitching to be an issue.
I never expected the offense to b score a measly 5 runs in 18 innings in a band box.
I don't care if it's different players. They know the history, and they once again are helpless at the sight of pinstripes. This lineup has had mostly putrid at bats through 2 games.
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Posted 05 October 2019 - 09:08 PM

Dear FO,

 

This playoff outcome was foretold to you by many when you chose to cling to your precious prospects instead of trading for pitching.

 

We now tell you that history will repeat next year unless you change your ways.

 

Love,

Espousers of the Obvious

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Posted 05 October 2019 - 09:08 PM

Embarrassing.
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Posted 05 October 2019 - 09:10 PM

These 2 losses have been painful, much more so than years past. 

 

At least last decade, you expected it.The Yankees top-to-bottom simply had much better teams - especially in terms of starting pitching and offensive depth.Still, the Twins were competitive in most games, and were often in position to win until foiled by a bad bounce, a bad call or a bad pitch.

 

But there isn't that same talent disparity this time around.  

 

To watch this Twins lineup flail against utterly hittable Yankee pitching is maddening.14K's? Blech.

 

Let's see what happens on Monday, Severino is another hittable pitcher. 

 

But as good as this team has been, if Monday's game is a repeat of today's, the fans will be well within their rights to boo the hometown team off the field.

 

 

 

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#29 Mr. Brooks

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Posted 05 October 2019 - 09:12 PM

Baldelli says Dobnak threw the ball pretty well.
That's just insulting. I've been a fan of Baldelli all year, but I don't think he has any idea what he's doing in the postseason.
He's lost me. I don't think I've ever done such an abrupt 180 about how I feel about a coach or manager as I have about Baldelli.

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Posted 05 October 2019 - 09:12 PM

Is this BACK TO THE FUTURE?This story has been written - over and over and over again.Berrios is the only chance we have and he gets four innings.The best relievers might not see the series from the mount.I think we see how Duffey really ranks.

 

Didn't we have a TD article telling how our pen is better than there pen?  

 

This is tough to take.Bring on the Central division again - please.But not the Yankees.  

 

It is tough to come up with positives.Arraez got two hits.Okay that is the end of the positives.  

This really hurts and it will stay with us next year no matter how many bombas we hit.I just hope Odorizzi gives us a great game, that Berrios comes back and Rocco sits on his hands and lets him pitch and then we get to game five and magic happens. 

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Posted 05 October 2019 - 09:16 PM

These 2 losses have been painful, much more so than years past.

At least last decade, you expected it. .



I absolutely expected exactly this after the first third of Game 1. Different year, different players, different coaches, different FO....same old s*#$.

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Posted 05 October 2019 - 09:19 PM

“I don’t think of this game as any different than any game that we’ve played,” Baldelli said. “I don’t think, even in the five-game series, that there’s any added emphasis on today’s game. Every game is important. It doesn’t change the importance based on what happened in the previous game until you’re down to the last game and both teams know that they have to win that game, it’s not going to change the way that we’re really going to operate with our personnel.”

Absolute nonsense, IMO.
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Posted 05 October 2019 - 09:23 PM

Good thing that we saved Odo and Rodgers until the series was effectively over....

 

I think we can all agree that It is super important that they are really well rested for the games that will never be played!

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Posted 05 October 2019 - 09:29 PM

No matter what happens the rest of this series, this Twins team was REALLY FUN TO WATCH THIS YEAR. My 12 year old got me into baseball again this year, and I haven't had this much fun watching baseball in a long time. FSN puts out a great broadcast, and the product is great in my opinion. Was able to take my son up to Target Field for a game this year, and this 2019 Twins Team has provided us with a lot of great times this season. Go Twins!
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Posted 05 October 2019 - 09:30 PM

 

Isn't Odorizzi still on this team?
Starting a guy who was driving an Uber last year, in a must win game in Yankee Stadium was preposterous.
Once again, saving players for situations that may never arise. I don't get it. Odorizzi doesn't even get a start until the series is, for all intents and purposes, over.

Totally agree. If Dobnak were a regular cabbie, that's one thing. But let's face it, Uber was concocted as a scam to avoid all the fees and regulations that come with driving a cab. Thinking that Uber would somehow help the Twins beat the Yankees was, frankly, ridiculous. 

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Posted 05 October 2019 - 09:41 PM

This Twins franchise is forever cooked in the postseason. When ownership' s only stated goal is to win division championships, and build for only that, this team will never advance. The poster that listed the names of the starters above proves this theory. May be different players and management but one thing never changes the ownership and their contentment with illusion of winning and only making the one and done playoffs. 16 walks to the Yankees, twins brought pencils for pitching to a sword fight. This one and done playoffs lays with ownership as much as the players. Content with jyst making the postseason, this one is cooked and over.
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Posted 05 October 2019 - 09:41 PM

16 walks and two 6 run losses. We all expected Twins to be more competitive, I guess all we needed to do was look back at the 2019 trade deadline, the failure to add any quality starting pitching foretold the difficulty these playoffs would end up being.
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Posted 05 October 2019 - 09:54 PM

 

16 walks and two 6 run losses. We all expected Twins to be more competitive, I guess all we needed to do was look back at the 2019 trade deadline, the failure to add any quality starting pitching foretold the difficulty these playoffs would end up being.

I totally agree with you, but even if Mike Minor or Marcus Stroman start today's game, I think we still lose because the hitting was so poor. 

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Posted 05 October 2019 - 09:55 PM

Judging from the reactions of Frank Thomas and John Smoltz, I get the real sense that a lot of the TV broadcasters are a bit frustrated, maybe disappointed, in the Twins for getting destroyed by the Yankees. I think the expectation for TV was that this would be a very exciting series. It has been, by far, the most dull series in the post-season. 

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Posted 05 October 2019 - 09:59 PM

 

This Twins franchise is forever cooked in the postseason. When ownership' s only stated goal is to win division championships, and build for only that, this team will never advance. The poster that listed the names of the starters above proves this theory. May be different players and management but one thing never changes the ownership and their contentment with illusion of winning and only making the one and done playoffs. 16 walks to the Yankees, twins brought pencils for pitching to a sword fight. This one and done playoffs lays with ownership as much as the players. Content with jyst making the postseason, this one is cooked and over.

It is beginning to get very old now. I was actually really nervous in the first two innings of Game One because I really did think that we had a legitimate chance this year. By the end of the fifth inning of Game One, I totally lost all my nervousness because I realized this year would be no different. I am however, quite surprised with the lack of competitiveness of our club. I would have thought it would have been very competitive these last two games. That's what is surprising. We really have never been dominated like this in any kind of stretch in this entire year. 

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