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#1 AJ Condon

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Posted 04 September 2019 - 09:31 PM

Jose Berrios was given an extra day of rest after the Twins went with a bullpen day in a 6-5 win over the Red Sox last night. Things didn’t work out as planned, as the Twins fell to Boston 6-2 tonight. The Twins’ offense struggled against Eduardo Rodriguez and failed to come through with runners on as he sailed through the lineup picking up eight strikeouts. The Indians got into a close game in the ninth but their bull pen stranded bases loaded, and with a Twins loss, are now five and a half games back.Box Score
Berrios: 5.0 IP, 8 H, 6 ER, 3 BB, 6 K, 64.4% strikes (65 of 101 pitches)
Bullpen: 3.0 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 1 K

Home Runs: Rosario (28)
Multi-Hit Games: Rosario (2-for-4, HR), Sano (2-for-3, BB), Cron (2-for-3, BB)

Bottom 3 WPA: Polanco -.106, Cave -.157, Berrios -.228

Extra Day Doesn’t Help Berrios

The hope was that Berrios could use the extra day of rest to get back to his dominant self we saw earlier this season, and not the Berrios we saw last month, when he had his worst month of his career since his rookie year in … August. Since his start at the end of July when he threw seven shutout innings, he has given up 23 runs in just 27 innings coming into tonight.

Berrios is usually pretty good at keeping the ball in the ballpark, in fact he’s giving up just 1.2 home runs per nine innings. This season, the first three innings is where he has surrendered the most with 13. Today, he again struggled early as he gave up two home runs to Mookie Betts in his first two at-bats, in the first two innings, on just two pitches. This year, he has also now given up 10 home runs on the first pitch of an at-bat.

After a rough start to the game, Berrios was able to turn things around for a few innings. After the second home run by Betts, Berrios retired 11 of the next 13 batters, which was capped off by a very athletic play by Berrios himself.



Something that Berrios was able to use an extra rest day to his favor was getting his velocity back up. Recently, Berrios’ velocity has been consistently in the low 90s, but tonight it looked back to normal as he topped out at about 95 mph and was normally hanging around 94 mph on his fastball.

That was about it for good things from Berrios, as he left the game without even recording an out in the sixth inning. Berrios gave up a leadoff single that was followed by a walk and a double to score another run as he left with runners on second and third.

Eduardo Rodriguez Quiets Twins

Rodriguez came into tonight's start having given up just three runs in his last 17 1/3 innings, and tonight he continued his success shutting out the Twins offense for seven innings. Rodriguez gave up just five hits while striking out eight batters. Though Rodriguez wasn’t giving up many hits, he issued four walks, but the Twins just couldn’t come through in times of need.

Rodriguez struck out the side in the top of the first, and picked up his fifth strikeout in the second inning stranding two runners. In the fourth, the Twins got back-to-back singles to lead off the inning, but Cave grounded into a double play. The inning wasn’t over quite yet as Rodriguez walked the next two batters to fill the bases. He got Willians Astudillo to fly out to end the threat with no runs being scored, but four guys reaching base safely.

In the final three innings, he faced just 11 batters while recording nine outs including two more strikeouts, the final coming against Max Kepler to end the inning, and Rodriguez’s start.

Bullpen

Once the Twins' bullpen came into the game, they quieted down the Sox offense. Ryne Harper came in for the first time since being recalled and pitched just two pitches and recorded an out with runners on second and third. Cody Stashak came in with hopes of keeping the runners on the bases. Mookie Betts picked up another RBI with a single scoring the Sox sixth and last run of the game. Stashak picked up the final two outs to end the inning and strand two runners. Stashak picked up a 1-2-3 inning in the seventh before giving way to Brusdar Graterol for his second career outing. After giving up a leadoff walk, Graterol got three straight lineouts to end the inning.

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Posted 04 September 2019 - 09:41 PM

I think serious talks need to be had about stretching out Dobnak, Thorpe or Smeltzer into a starter to take Berrios potential playoff spot in the rotation if this continues. I don't know how Rocco could trust Berrios in a big game with the stuff he's shown the past month. 

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Posted 04 September 2019 - 10:09 PM

Kind of stinks that Cleveland has an afternoon game on Thursday while the Twins have to finish up their series with Boston in the evening.The Indians will be all tucked away in their hotel rooms getting some rest while the Twins have to take the overnight flight back to the Twin Cites.For such an important series too....


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Posted 04 September 2019 - 10:14 PM

When you throw your pitch right down the middle to Mookie Betts, and then do it again the next at bat... you are not going to be a succesful pitcher. It is sad what has happened to Berrios the second half of this, and every season of his career.

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Posted 04 September 2019 - 10:22 PM

Jose Berrios had his velocity back. His command? Well ...

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Posted 05 September 2019 - 12:46 AM

Yesterday was Wednesday, September 4. It was the 139th game of the year putting the Twins 86% of the way through the season. The Twins hit 1 home run upping their MLB record-breaking season total to 272 home runs.

 

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Posted 05 September 2019 - 01:26 AM

 

Jose Berrios had his velocity back. His command? Well ...

 

Thanks, Tom.Two things that impressed and offer hope:

  • You pointed out the welcome return of velocity
  • The diving stop and throw to first on Benintendi's grounder demonstrate that the hunger and will are there

He and the coaches have 23 games/four starts to figure the mechanics out.Godspeed.

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Posted 05 September 2019 - 01:56 AM

I think serious talks need to be had about stretching out Dobnak, Thorpe or Smeltzer into a starter to take Berrios potential playoff spot in the rotation if this continues. I don't know how Rocco could trust Berrios in a big game with the stuff he's shown the past month.


Seems a little extreme. From what I've seen Jose has had some poorly located breaking balls that have really hurt him in big, key spots. I think his location and situational awareness are things he will get better at.
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Posted 05 September 2019 - 05:59 AM

 

I think serious talks need to be had about stretching out Dobnak, Thorpe or Smeltzer into a starter to take Berrios potential playoff spot in the rotation if this continues. I don't know how Rocco could trust Berrios in a big game with the stuff he's shown the past month. 

 

Absolute overreaction. He's in a slump. The only guys we have are Big Mike and Odorizzi. The Twins are going to need Berrios in the playoffs (if they make the playoffs) and you'll be watching him start a game if you're lucky.

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Posted 05 September 2019 - 07:39 AM

What a puzzle and challenge - Berrios - no longer our ACE and annually doing an August Swoon.What happens?Tired?Tipping pitches?Too predictable?Where are all the analytics?We really have to have Berrios in the playoffs.Pineda and Odorizzi will pitch, but they will each go five innings, we need one pitcher to rest the BP with just one or two more innings and Berrios was that guy.

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Posted 05 September 2019 - 07:56 AM

I don't understand why they aren't shutting Berrios down for 2-3 weeks. Get his mind and mechanics back on track with simulated games... Then give him a tune up start before the playoffs. Not much is gained by continuing to throw him out there every 5-6 days.
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Posted 05 September 2019 - 08:04 AM

I really think they need to skip the next couple Berrios starts... Let his arm rest for a week or two. We need him on firing on all cylinders and right now he's a liability each start. I cannot imagine that Thorpe or Smeltzer would be worse right now. 

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Posted 05 September 2019 - 08:19 AM

 

Yesterday was Wednesday, September 4. It was the 139th game of the year putting the Twins 86% of the way through the season. The Twins hit 1 home run upping their MLB record-breaking season total to 272 home runs.

You should include the Yankees in these.They hit 2 and are now 9 behind us. Lets get a McGwire/Sosa vibe going.

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Posted 05 September 2019 - 08:23 AM

Yesterday was the first time since August 11 that the Twins have lost a game on the same day Cleveland won. Despite the hiccup last night, the Twins are still taking care of business.
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Posted 05 September 2019 - 08:54 AM

If they win tonight, they win the series and anyone who complains about winning a road series needs to check themselves. 

 

It's disappointing that Berrios is continuing to struggle, and a little too bad that the offense couldn't pick him up, but it happens. I'm not sure shutting him down for an extended period will make a real difference, but skipping him the next time through might not be out of line, just to get him some extra rest and time to work on mechanics. Unless he's got an injury, sitting him for an extended period probably doesn't help.

 

Here's what I really don't love about last night's game: Mitch Garver not catching. I understand getting him and Castro plenty of rest, i understand getting Astudillo out there...but until we've clinched, Garver should be getting in the lineup more.

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Posted 05 September 2019 - 10:29 AM

 

If they win tonight, they win the series and anyone who complains about winning a road series needs to check themselves. 

 

It's disappointing that Berrios is continuing to struggle, and a little too bad that the offense couldn't pick him up, but it happens. I'm not sure shutting him down for an extended period will make a real difference, but skipping him the next time through might not be out of line, just to get him some extra rest and time to work on mechanics. Unless he's got an injury, sitting him for an extended period probably doesn't help.

 

Here's what I really don't love about last night's game: Mitch Garver not catching. I understand getting him and Castro plenty of rest, i understand getting Astudillo out there...but until we've clinched, Garver should be getting in the lineup more.

Pretty sure he's still dealing with the effects of a foul tip off the mask.

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Posted 05 September 2019 - 10:34 AM

 

Pretty sure he's still dealing with the effects of a foul tip off the mask.

Agree. They should seriously consider moving him to 1st base as soon as possible. Even if that means letting Cron walk.


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Posted 05 September 2019 - 10:46 AM

The bad news - Berrios is still not quite right.

 

The good news - the Twins will finish a 10 game road trip with either an excellent 8-2 or 7-3 record.  

 

More good news - arguable the Twins best two starting pitchers - Big Mike and Odo are lined up to face the Indians.

That Twins 2nd baseman - #29 - he doesn't run, he "ca-rew-zes" - Earl Weaver


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Posted 05 September 2019 - 10:50 AM

I didn't get to see the game, but looking at the box score and game log, it seemed Jose did a decent job with everyone outside of Betts....then ran out of steam in the 6th.Am I off on that?I guess if you get beat it's better it's an MVP caliber player than a scrub.

 

Either way, take the series tonight!

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Posted 05 September 2019 - 11:41 AM

I’d be fine with them just shutting down Berrios for for a turn or two during the rotation. Let him get some real rest. Then, give him one start before the playoffs in a way that lines up with game 1. If he looks like he’s back , give him game 1. If he’s still struggling, give Pineda game 1. I’m not sure what else you can really do at this point. I think it’s kind of foolish to keep running him out there when he’s clearly not right (whether due to some minor injury or exhaustion).

During the game, a buddy and I were discussing whether we would have Berrios or Eduardo Rodriguez long term. Two months ago, it was clearly Berrios. But, after unraveling down the stretch again, I may take Rodriguez. He’s 26, he’s a lefty, good K guy, playoff/World Series experience, and he’s really turning it on down the stretch (44 IP and a 2.86 ERA over his last 7 starts). Really impressive young pitcher. Sure would be nice to have that going into the playoffs instead of the nuclear meltdown we’re seeing with Berrios for the third consecutive year.
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