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#41 wabene

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Posted 01 September 2019 - 09:12 AM

Love Blyleven's comment. F you Anthony. Well said. My opinion of old Bert just doubled.

Concur, who would you rather have a beer with, Burt or Dick?
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Posted 01 September 2019 - 09:21 AM

Concur, who would you rather have a beer with, Burt or Dick?

no.
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Posted 01 September 2019 - 09:27 AM

no.


Well in this scenario I was buying so you just saved me some money, thanks!
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Posted 01 September 2019 - 10:00 AM

 

no.

 

 

concur


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Posted 01 September 2019 - 10:10 AM

 

Not nitpicking at all, that's copy editing and it's very much appreciated. I started typing that out prior to the last Garver blast and forgot to update it. Good lookin' out.

I've been a Twins fan ever since I was a kid who had to move to Minneapolis and live with my grand parents. Used to roll baseballs across the top of the dugout and Harmon Killebrew would sign them. Worked at Metropolitan Stadium as a newspaper hawker and would play catch with Cesar Tovar and Leo Cardenas and they would go through my lunch bag to see what kind of goodies my grandmother had put in there. For a kid who loved baseball, it truly was the best of times.

 

Twins Daily has become a warm and fuzzy place for me in the sense that there is a passion for all things Twins here. The game write-ups, the articles, the analysis, the comments . . . all fun to ingest and process and enjoy as we root for "our boys" in the dugout. This season has been great because we're actually winning baseball games again, in bunches. Keep up the good work. Now if we can just keep Byron Buxton from running into outfield walls and turning into Pete Reiser.

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Posted 01 September 2019 - 10:31 AM

Some more on the pitching, including me stupidly getting mad about Tim Laudner because it feels better than stupidly getting mad about Martin Perez, for some reason.

It’s not just Laudner, and it’s not just you :)
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Posted 01 September 2019 - 11:49 AM

 

I get the L/Rpercentages thing that Rocco was looking for there with his hunch.

 

But here's the deal, over the last 15 days:

 

Schoop: .435/.458/1.130/(1.589)

Arraez: .244/.300/.267/(.567)

 

Arraez has been scuffling in the dog days of August, at bat, and in the field.

And in all reality, after a blazing start, his 2nd half OPS is only .742.

 

Schoop was well-rested and has been by far their hottest hitter over the last 15 days.

And 3rd best in OPS for August behind only Cruz and Cave. (Arraez is 9th best over the same time frame.)

Schoop's 2nd half OPS is actually .881, which is 4th best on the Twins (not counting Cave), while Arraez's .742 OPS ranks next to last- 11th best- only Jason Castro is worse.

Schoop also has a season # of .840 OPS vs. RHP on the road.

 

Still, it was a close call, but Rocco's percentages and hunches went with a scuffling rookie over an established vet with the game literally on the line.

 

Awesome breakdown of the decision. Kudos. Keeping it 100, without the bias.

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Posted 01 September 2019 - 01:53 PM


I don't think it matters when the AAA season ends, in this case.

We can't option a player to AAA after the AAA season ends, but players already in AAA still accumulate days on optional assignment even after their season ends -- all the way up to the end of the MLB regular season. And they need to spend 10 days on optional assignment before they can be recalled again.

FWIW, no mention of a minor league end of season exception here:
https://www.thecubre...xport/html/3521


It’s possible the rules have changed in 30 years, but in 1991 the Twins “optioned” Allan Anderson to AA on like August 30th, but were able to recall him just a few days later because the AA season was over.
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Posted 01 September 2019 - 03:01 PM

It’s possible the rules have changed in 30 years, but in 1991 the Twins “optioned” Allan Anderson to AA on like August 30th, but were able to recall him just a few days later because the AA season was over.

Ah yes, Allan Anderson! I believe I attended his last MLB game in the '91 season finale.

I quickly found a news item dated Sep. 2nd, 1991 that has the Twins optioning both Anderson and Tom Edens to single-A Kenosha, at the same time they made a bunch of September call-ups. Both Anderson and Edens then appeared for the Twins on Sep. 4, presumably after being recalled:
https://www.washingt...9-6d525966f9d2/

Here's a remarkable YouTube video that suggests the last Kenosha Twins game of 1991 was on August 28:


Today's rules definitely don't allow players to be optioned to minor league teams whose seasons have ended. Frankly I'm not sure why they'd have to be optioned at all after MLB rosters expanded. Might require further research...

Edit: this was back when the August 31st 25-man roster was the postseason roster. So I suspect Anderson and Edens were optioned on August 31, replaced by Jarvis Brown and Paul Sorrento, for postseason purposes. Must have had some rule at the time that allowed them to be sent to Kenosha and recalled just a couple days later.

From the Star Tribune, Sep. 5 , 1991: "The Twins added a fifth starter Wednesday, and they didn't have to go far to get him. Tom Edens and Allan Anderson, who were optioned to Class A Kenosha on Saturday when the Twins added hitters Paul Sorrento and Jarvis Brown to the postseason roster, were activated yesterday, with Edens designated the No. 5 starter."

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Posted 02 September 2019 - 09:06 AM

 

I realize the MLB HR record has been a foregone conclusion for awhile, it was only a matter of time. 

 

I also realize that we just lost to Detroit. 

 

I also realize that Martin Perez is not setting any minds at ease. 

 

And I realize that we have a prolific contingent of posters who would rather discuss failure than discuss accomplishments. 

 

However...

 

This team just broke the Home Run record and they did it before the Calendar turned September!!!

 

You read this thread and you can only assume that the 52nd loss of the season obviously trumps the greatest home run hitting team ever assembled.

 

Personally... I'm saying WOW!!!

Thank You for giving me such a fantastic summer. I've witnessed history and I won't forget this. 

 

Personally, I said WOW! and WAY more enjoyed the 11 single, 1 double, ZERO homer, ZERO error, ONE Brusdar, game on Sunday WAY more than the game on Saturday.... :jump:

 

(WAY over WOW, every single time)

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Posted 02 September 2019 - 10:45 AM

 

Personally, I said WOW! and WAY more enjoyed the 11 single, 1 double, ZERO homer, ZERO error, ONE Brusdar, game on Sunday WAY more than the game on Saturday.... :jump:

 

(WAY over WOW, every single time)

 

Maybe sometime we will set the MLB singles record. 

 

But Today... This is what we get and nobody has done it before.:)

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