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#201 AlwaysinModeration

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Posted 01 August 2019 - 07:31 PM

There is some irony in a move, intended to strengthen the bullpen, having an immediate result that leaves it in a highly weakened state heading into the next series.


To quote Forest Gump, “it happens.”
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#202 ashbury

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Posted 01 August 2019 - 08:03 PM

To quote Forest Gump, “it happens.”

To quote Michael Scott:

 

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I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you.


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Posted 03 August 2019 - 06:43 AM

So, Dyson has had back-to-back lousy performances. I’m glad he got them out of the way. The only fear I have is that it gets in his head. His record says that he will be a good late-inning guy.
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Posted 03 August 2019 - 08:10 AM

 

To quote Forest Gump, “it happens.”

You will always say it happens until it happens all the time. Then it's going to be too late.


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Posted 03 August 2019 - 08:25 AM

Duffey might be better. I mean that as a credit to Duffey not a knock on Dyson.

He did the work to make changes this year. Brandon Warne did a nice piece last spring about his work on tunneling. He is a two pitch pitcher now with his increased use of the curveball and dropping the change up.

He has performed well. To go with his solid ERA he also has not allowed an inherited runner to score this year. His strike out rate is 29.1%. It is time to trust Duffey with the 8th inning.
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Posted 03 August 2019 - 08:47 AM

 

Duffey might be better. I mean that as a credit to Duffey not a knock on Dyson.

He did the work to make changes this year. Brandon Warne did a nice piece last spring about his work on tunneling. He is a two pitch pitcher now with his increased use of the curveball and dropping the change up.

He has performed well. To go with his solid ERA he also has not allowed an inherited runner to score this year. His strike out rate is 29.1%. It is time to trust Duffey with the 8th inning.

 

I like Romo as setup.Duffey has great stuff and I do really think he has the make up to be a shut down reliever, his problem is that damn control.Once he loses it, he really loses it.If he could learn to harness it just a little better I really think he could be something special.

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#207 jorgenswest

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Posted 03 August 2019 - 09:34 AM

Neither Romo or Dyson were what I ultimately hoped to acquire but they were the best relievers that moved at the deadline.

As far as trusting late they need more than 3 or they will overwork those 3. Duffey needs to join that group and right now he needs to be ahead of Dyson.
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Posted 03 August 2019 - 09:59 AM

You will always say it happens until it happens all the time. Then it's going to be too late.

"Until." Are we presupposing?

 

Have you looked at his track record, such as his game log this year? He had a bad outing for SF on July 13, quite similar to what we've seen, with 3 runs given up without recording an out. Blew the save. Team lost.

 

Then he came in to a game two days later and began a string of 7 appearances leading up to the trade, where he pitched an inning each time and gave up an aggregate of 2 hits and 1 walk, for an OPS-against of .212. (Yes, his BABIP was a little low. :) )

 

I mean, this is the nature of a relief pitcher.

 

He gave us two truly terrible games. His record doesn't say this is who he is, though.

 

He's a 31-year old athlete. I don't think it makes sense to throw out his entire recent body of work, and make extrapolations like "until" based on two games.

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Posted 03 August 2019 - 01:27 PM

Neither Romo or Dyson were what I ultimately hoped to acquire but they were the best relievers that moved at the deadline.

As far as trusting late they need more than 3 or they will overwork those 3. Duffey needs to join that group and right now he needs to be ahead of Dyson.

the bullpen is absolutely improved, and agreed, The Twins got the two best relievers that moved. I was hoping for more, if it were Giles, Romo, Dyson, i’d be very, very happy. Just Romo and Dyson and you’re counting on one of the young guys to take big leap forward.

That can absolutely happen, but tough to count on. Fingers crossed that one of May, Duffey, Littell steps up big.
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Posted 03 August 2019 - 02:16 PM

Duffey might be better. I mean that as a credit to Duffey not a knock on Dyson.

He did the work to make changes this year. Brandon Warne did a nice piece last spring about his work on tunneling. He is a two pitch pitcher now with his increased use of the curveball and dropping the change up.

He has performed well. To go with his solid ERA he also has not allowed an inherited runner to score this year. His strike out rate is 29.1%. It is time to trust Duffey with the 8th inning.


More likely the 6th or 7th.

In my “perfect world” scenario, Rogers is the “get out of trouble” guy in the 7th or 8th (or 9th in a tie game). Romo should be used to start the 9th with a lead. Duffey would be used if/when the starter runs into trouble in the 6th or 7th. Until he shows he deserves a more critical role, probably use May to relieve the starter before the 6th (most likely when losing). Dyson and the AAA reliever rotation roles to be determined.



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