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#61 blindeke

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Posted 20 July 2019 - 06:01 PM

Pre-season relief pitching plan update:

 

Magill

Romero

Hildenberger

None of the above CHECK


#62 BattleYourTailOff

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Posted 20 July 2019 - 06:01 PM

One more M to go.

#63 Vanimal46

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Posted 21 July 2019 - 10:46 AM

Magill is traded to the Mariners for everyone's favorite return... Cash Considerations.

#64 darin617

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Posted 21 July 2019 - 10:53 AM

 

Magill is traded to the Mariners for everyone's favorite return... Cash Considerations.

Maybe they are going to use the money for a Berrios extension...


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Posted 21 July 2019 - 11:01 AM

To no-one in particular, this cash consideration angst and bashing is ridiculous.

So the Twins, or any team for that matter, drop a guy because he doesn't fit, can't do the job, they promote someone else or make a trade for someone, etc. So said dropped player can be had for FREE after the waiting period. OR, a team that would like first shot at said player contacts the Twins and makes an offer rather than hoping that player falls to them via waiver claim.

The Twins should say "No thank you, we'd rather receive nothing and just let the process play out via the waiver wire,"???
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Posted 21 July 2019 - 11:17 AM

Perhaps I am the eternal optimist, but by adding a bullpen pitcher does that mean Seattle is planning on trading one in the very near future? Perhaps to the Twins? I would love to see Roenis Elias in a Twins uniform starting this week or next.

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Posted 21 July 2019 - 11:24 AM

To no-one in particular, this cash consideration angst and bashing is ridiculous.

So the Twins, or any team for that matter, drop a guy because he doesn't fit, can't do the job, they promote someone else or make a trade for someone, etc. So said dropped player can be had for FREE after the waiting period. OR, a team that would like first shot at said player contacts the Twins and makes an offer rather than hoping that player falls to them via waiver claim.

The Twins should say "No thank you, we'd rather receive nothing and just let the process play out via the waiver wire,"???


Still waiting for a corresponding move to the last 3 DFA'd players...

Getting cash considerations is one tiny step above getting nothing in return. They're getting the waiver fee covered, somewhere around $20k. Yippee.
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Posted 21 July 2019 - 11:48 AM

Cash is being bashed because it does not help the current team which badly needs to make 3+ trades to keep Cleveland at bay.


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Posted 21 July 2019 - 11:51 AM

I agree that we need to make trades, but that has nothing to do with Matt Magill. He has no trade value now, certainly not for any major league player that would help the present team. Same with Morin. Frankly, same with Mejia. I'm hopeful that by creating three spots on the 40-man roster, this is all a prelude to making a trade for Major league talent. As I said I'm hopeful, not confident.

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Posted 21 July 2019 - 12:10 PM

Magill isn't as bad as this thread is making him out to be. His IR was only at 20% and his ERA+ is above average.

 

He had three bad outings out of 28. Without those three bad games, two of which were just doing mop-up duty in big losses, his ERA would be well under 2.00.

 

Sure, in some years, you get rid of a Magill. This is a down year for pitching across the league, as his ERA+ shows clearly. If you're getting rid of him, you'd better be sure you're replacing him with someone better.

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Posted 21 July 2019 - 12:30 PM

Magill isn't as bad as this thread is making him out to be. His IR was only at 20% and his ERA+ is above average.

He had three bad outings out of 28. Without those three bad games, two of which were just doing mop-up duty in big losses, his ERA would be well under 2.00.

Sure, in some years, you get rid of a Magill. This is a down year for pitching across the league, as his ERA+ shows clearly. If you're getting rid of him, you'd better be sure you're replacing him with someone better.


Seriously though. I thought I was taking crazy pills. Magill is serviceable. He's a big reason this pen over-performed despite Reed not making the team, and Hilde, Mejia, and Romero being utterly ineffective.

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Posted 21 July 2019 - 12:44 PM

Serviceable? Maybe. Serviceable at best. Perhaps that's ok for this year's Mariners (or even past Twins teams), but not good enough to be on a contending team IMHO. You're right in that this move makes sense if we're going to replace him with someone better. My view is that Thorpe, Smeltzer, and even perhaps Stewart might be that someone better but I hope this is a prelude to a trade.
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Posted 21 July 2019 - 03:00 PM

 

Cash is being bashed because it does not help the current team which badly needs to make 3+ trades to keep Cleveland at bay.

 

Yeah but clearing the 25 man roster spot helps us and that has already happened. 

 

So your choice is now:

 

A. Clearing a roster spot and getting nothing for it

 

or

 

B. Clearing the roster spot and getting a little cash in hand.  

 

The Twins have decided at the very least... they have someone better on the 40 man roster for each of these 3 guys on the 25 man roster. Removing these 3 from the roster already signifies improvement through the pure act of letting them go.  

 

As a result, we now have 4 40 man spots open for additions to the club via trade or farm system. They most likely won't add from the farm system until after the trade deadline.

 

So, I'm encouraged that possibly up to 4 players are on their way to help. And they got some cash to boot. 

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Posted 21 July 2019 - 03:03 PM

To no-one in particular, this cash consideration angst and bashing is ridiculous.

So the Twins, or any team for that matter, drop a guy because he doesn't fit, can't do the job, they promote someone else or make a trade for someone, etc. So said dropped player can be had for FREE after the waiting period. OR, a team that would like first shot at said player contacts the Twins and makes an offer rather than hoping that player falls to them via waiver claim.

The Twins should say "No thank you, we'd rather receive nothing and just let the process play out via the waiver wire,"???

When the Twins don't want a guy anymore, he should be gracious and just retire.

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So, in conclusion, what was your question again?