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#21 biggentleben

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Posted 07 July 2019 - 06:23 PM

 

Better choosing between Kimbrel, Strop, or Cishek than just Strop or Cishek, though.

 

Still would have Brandon Morrow returning in the second half, along with Brad Brach and Brandon Kintzler even without Kimbrel.

 

One report this week stated that this put the Cubs over on luxury tax to the point where they will be dropping 10 spots in the draft in 2020. As the Cubs sit third in the NL in record and in a dogfight in their division to even make the playoffs, I'm not sure closer is the position that you gain the impact enough to make that worth it.

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#22 Mike Sixel

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Posted 07 July 2019 - 06:34 PM

 

Still would have Brandon Morrow returning in the second half, along with Brad Brach and Brandon Kintzler even without Kimbrel.

 

One report this week stated that this put the Cubs over on luxury tax to the point where they will be dropping 10 spots in the draft in 2020. As the Cubs sit third in the NL in record and in a dogfight in their division to even make the playoffs, I'm not sure closer is the position that you gain the impact enough to make that worth it.

They might not be done adding....and he cost money and 10 spots in the draft (so far). That's less than trading a real prospect, I'd guess.

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Posted 07 July 2019 - 07:18 PM

My Cubs fan friends are going nuts.


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#24 biggentleben

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Posted 07 July 2019 - 11:50 PM

 

They might not be done adding....and he cost money and 10 spots in the draft (so far). That's less than trading a real prospect, I'd guess.

 

Based on Fangraphs' pick valuation and prospect valuation articles from Craig Edwards, that'd be $2-5M in value lost, which would equate to a 45+ prospect on their list. Per Fangraphs' list for the Twins, that'd be the equivalent of Wander Javier or Luis Arraez.

 

....and that's not counting the loss of international money or just the straight salary.

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#25 Old Twins Cap

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Posted 08 July 2019 - 05:21 AM

 

Based on Fangraphs' pick valuation and prospect valuation articles from Craig Edwards, that'd be $2-5M in value lost, which would equate to a 45+ prospect on their list. Per Fangraphs' list for the Twins, that'd be the equivalent of Wander Javier or Luis Arraez.

 

....and that's not counting the loss of international money or just the straight salary.

 

Give them Wander Javier then.


#26 spycake

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Posted 08 July 2019 - 05:55 AM

Still would have Brandon Morrow returning in the second half, along with Brad Brach and Brandon Kintzler even without Kimbrel.

One report this week stated that this put the Cubs over on luxury tax to the point where they will be dropping 10 spots in the draft in 2020. As the Cubs sit third in the NL in record and in a dogfight in their division to even make the playoffs, I'm not sure closer is the position that you gain the impact enough to make that worth it.


Link? They are still saving Zobrist money, so every analysis I have read shows them as under that threshold. For example:

https://www.bleedcub...-trade-deadline

Also, they would be fools to count on Morrow for anything at this point, but if he does come back, the same principle applies: better choosing from Kimbrel plus their other relievers, than simply choosing from the other relievers.

#27 waltomeal

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Posted 10 August 2019 - 10:26 PM

The "tracker" hasn't been updated in a while.

Kimbrel:5.68 ERA, -0.2 WAR, on the IL.

Just trying to help out.

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Posted 10 August 2019 - 10:58 PM

 

The "tracker" hasn't been updated in a while.

Kimbrel:5.68 ERA, -0.2 WAR, on the IL.

Just trying to help out.

Sounds about like what we traded for, except Dyson's ERA is slightly higher.(ERA of 81.00, and he managed to pack -0.3 WAR into 2/3 IP.)

 

That said, I think Dyson will help down the stretch. I didn't think it was a great plan to put him in that first game when he had just arrived during the game and hadn't even introduced himself to his catcher.

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#29 old nurse

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Posted 11 August 2019 - 11:18 AM

14 games.11 games no runsThat would be a better success rate than May of Duffey.


#30 Seth Stohs

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Posted 05 September 2019 - 03:33 PM

Kimbrel to the IL... elbow...

 

 

Elbow inflammation....