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#41 Tomj14

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 08:07 AM

 


 

He should slide down in the pecking order, and each outing should continue to be monitored very closely, but I actually think last night was a good step forward. The Bogaerts RBI double came on a pitch that was a few inches off the plate, exactly where Castro wanted it. I think that was more a good piece of hitting than a bad pitch.

After Rogers and Harper where does he fit? blow May but above Duffy?

 


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Posted 18 June 2019 - 08:07 AM

 

I will put myself in the precarious position of Blake Parker defender. It's not a glamorous job, but somebody's gotta do it! :)

 

Before I start, I just want to say that in no way am I trying to advocate for him to continue pitching in high-leverage situations. But, I am going to back down from an earlier take I had saying that he needs a 10-day stay on the IL. Why?

 

I'm encouraged that we're seeing the splitter more. His usage of that pitch has gone up from 20.3% and 20.7% in April and May to 33.6% in June. If he's going to be productive, he needs that pitch. I was also happy to see his four seamer averaged 92.6 mph last night, nearly a full mph above where it's been sitting on the season.

 

He should slide down in the pecking order, and each outing should continue to be monitored very closely, but I actually think last night was a good step forward. The Bogaerts RBI double came on a pitch that was a few inches off the plate, exactly where Castro wanted it. I think that was more a good piece of hitting than a bad pitch.

 

We've seen Parker pitch much worse and not give up any runs. Hmm ... somehow I feel like that may not make people feel any better, ha!

 

It's a completely sensible take (as long as it includes the sentence... he should slide down in the pecking order). 

 

Temporarily... We don't have to Baby with the Bathwater Blake. Just give him some low leverage work as he works the kinks out. 

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 08:14 AM

 

 

I would add Berrios, Kepler and Garver.

It is going to be tough for Garver, since Sanchez and Chirinos have higher WAR and he has been hurt.

Odo, Berrios, and Polanco will probably make it with Kepler missing out. My guess


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Posted 18 June 2019 - 08:15 AM

Bats will come alive against Price tonight and Gibson will shut the Sox down tomorrow. No worries.

As Ben Hogan said, the most important shot (game) is the next one.


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Posted 18 June 2019 - 08:19 AM

 

Dear Rocco,

 

I'm lodging my first official complaint of 2019.

 

You are overusing Blake Parker at the moment. I'm not saying that he should be cut, I'm not saying that you can never use him again but, you've got to back off on his usage at the moment. 

 

Sincerely,

 

 

Riverbrian

 

 

 

Using Blake Parker is questionable in general, but using him in high leverage situations (like last night's game, down 1-0 in the 9th) is unjustifiable IMO. The guy isn't good, and it again showed last night.

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 08:23 AM

Maybe we need La Tortuga's mojo back on the bench? His presence seems to have a magical effect on the bat rack.  

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 08:23 AM

 

After Rogers and Harper where does he fit? blow May but above Duffy?

How I would rank them at this exact moment*

Rogers

May

Harper

Duffey

Parker

Morin

Magill 

Littell

 

*This is the type of thing that should be ever-changing. Guys get hot, guys go cold and you have to be willing to react to that. That doesn't mean to the extremes of DFA a guy who's cold and promote a guy who's hot to closer, but you do have to let things evolve quickly if the situation calls for it.

 

My main concern with May is the walks. He's only walked one of the last 15 men he's faced, so I'm going to slide him up. If Duffey's going to continue to get chances ... actually give him chances. See what's there. If you just know he's not a guy you're ever going to trust, might as well get somebody else up here or give a guy like Littell an extended look as opposed to all these cameo appearances they've been doing.

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 08:24 AM

 

Using Blake Parker is questionable in general, but using him in high leverage situations (like last night's game, down 1-0 in the 9th) is unjustifiable IMO. The guy isn't good, and it again showed last night.

I can sort of defend using Parker in that situation. He's got the experience in that kind of high leverage situation and Baldelli didn't want to burn through Rogers if the Twins were unable to tie the game.

 

There just weren't a lot of great choices last night. 

 

Again, I was surprised Parker only gave up 1 run. I thought for sure we were going to see Boston put 4 or 5 on the board.


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Posted 18 June 2019 - 08:28 AM

 

I can sort of defend using Parker in that situation. He's got the experience in that kind of high leverage situation and Baldelli didn't want to burn through Rogers if the Twins were unable to tie the game.

 

There just weren't a lot of great choices last night. 

 

Again, I was surprised Parker only gave up 1 run. I thought for sure we were going to see Boston put 4 or 5 on the board.

 

Harper, Duffey, May, and Rogers were all available last night and hadn't been used much over the last few days. Those guys, right now, are all better options than Parker IMO. Just because someone has experience in high leverage situations doesn't mean they are the right person to go with.

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 08:29 AM

 

Harper, Duffey, May, and Rogers were all available last night and hadn't been used much over the last few days. Those guys, right now, are all better options than Parker IMO. Just because someone has experience in high leverage situations doesn't mean they are the right person to go with.

"Sort" of defend.

 

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 08:43 AM

How I would rank them at this exact moment*
Rogers
May
Harper
Duffey
Parker
Morin
Magill
Littell

*This is the type of thing that should be ever-changing. Guys get hot, guys go cold and you have to be willing to react to that. That doesn't mean to the extremes of DFA a guy who's cold and promote a guy who's hot to closer, but you do have to let things evolve quickly if the situation calls for it.

My main concern with May is the walks. He's only walked one of the last 15 men he's faced, so I'm going to slide him up. If Duffey's going to continue to get chances ... actually give him chances. See what's there. If you just know he's not a guy you're ever going to trust, might as well get somebody else up here or give a guy like Littell an extended look as opposed to all these cameo appearances they've been doing.


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Posted 18 June 2019 - 08:47 AM

So who do we get tonight?Oh yeah, David Price.Good times.....


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Posted 18 June 2019 - 09:01 AM

 

So who do we get tonight?Oh yeah, David Price.Good times.....

 

Got lit up in his last start against TEX. There is reason for optimism!

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 09:21 AM

Bunting with the league leader in BA is bad karma, whoever called for it.

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 09:29 AM

As Ben Hogan said, the most important shot (game) is the next one.


Or as Paul Hogan said, "Call that a knife? This is a knife."
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Posted 18 June 2019 - 09:48 AM

 

So who do we get tonight?Oh yeah, David Price.Good times.....

 

The Twins have historically done a good job v. Price.

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 09:50 AM

 

Bunting with the league leader in BA is bad karma, whoever called for it.

 

How to bunt...

 

1) Don't.

2) Hit a dinger.

Edited by SpicyGarvSauce, 18 June 2019 - 09:50 AM.

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 09:51 AM

I don't mind the bunt there in general...at home, late,when even one run scored flips the win probability in a major way. Having said that, I don't think I would have chosen to bunt with that match-up. Watching him, Polanco definitely took a very conservative 'sacrifice-first' approach, IMO. Another way of saying it would be...if he was bunting for a hit, it was about the worse possible bunt approach/placement he could have taken.

 

Bottom line, just got beat by a good pitcher. Boston has a ton of very good starters. The encouraging thing is that Berrios dominated a playoff calibre lineup. You can look at his game logs the last couple of years and you'll see plenty of nice outings. But, he's seldom been able to dominate a really good lineup. It looked like that stuff he had last night would play in a matchup vs Sale, Verlander, etc.

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 09:55 AM

Why not bunt if you think the defense is not expecting a bunt?

 

Fans hate bunts, especially when they don't work, but this is the worst reason to not bunt.

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 09:57 AM

Man the Twins have had their chances their last 2 games.Berrios looked downright amazing.The Red Sox record won't show it, but that is a star studded lineup that Jose toyed with all night.The way he blew Betts away with that 95 MPH heater in the 8th...... :D !!!He looks like a true ace out there.I really think what Jake has doing is overshadowing Berrios, but he is putting together a damn fine season.

 

I have to give my hat off to Porcello as well.I have never thought extremely high of him, but he was on point last night.He rarely ever got behind, he rarely ever left anything over the heart of the plate and frustrated our guys all night.One of the only mistakes he did make, Cron crushed 410 feet and missed tying the game by mere feet, that goes over the fence, the whole outcome changes.If anyone should watch him pitch, it should be Kyle Gibson.

 

I'd like to rag on Parker, but my real question is why wasn't it May or Duffy in that situation?You want to keep the game close and you are facing the heart of the Boston order.....get someone who can strike someone out.Parker did give up the two doubles, but it was two all star caliber players....he just isn't who I would have up there.  

 

I think the bats are pressing a little bit.Some pretty huge swings early on the count on not great pitches.I think that tends to happen when the team slumps a little bit.It was bound to happen, let's just hope they relax a little and break out of the funk soon.

Edited by SwainZag, 18 June 2019 - 09:58 AM.

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