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Article: MIN 10, SEA 5: Another Double-Digit Scoring Effort, Another Bullpen Scare

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#41 jkcarew

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 09:48 AM

Statistically, the Twins bullpen is 'ok'...still top half in terms of FIP, and most numbers that one would care about. Still not what you might want for a team that looks good enough to compete with the best in the post season. But the thing that is most concerning to me...the Twins are right at the bottom of MLB in innings pitched by bullpen. In other words, this is as good as it's likely to get with the current cast of characters. Any regression/struggle at all by the starters and we'll see more of the bottom half of this bullpen in leverage situations. Maybe that doesn't matter in the race to win the ALC? Maybe that won't matter in the post-season with Pineda and/or Perez moving to the pen? Maybe Mejia will ride in on a white horse?

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 09:53 AM

I have been frustrated with Romero in the pen since the beginning. It still feels like Sano in RF. When someone is doing well in one situation, why change? As the summer progresses can we continue with a pen like this?


I'm right there with you Mike. Moving Romero to the pen was ill advised and now this is a lost year for him. He's unrecognizable from last season. His delivery in 2018 was so smooth and effortless. He threw plenty of gas consistently at 95-97 MPH. Wes Johnson has done a lot of great things with the pitching staff, but he probably should have let Romero continuing to do his thing without trying to add another 2-3 MPH of velocity.

I'm done with the experiment and think he should spend the rest of 2019 in the minors ramping up to start again in 2020.
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Posted 14 June 2019 - 10:51 AM

Statistically, the Twins bullpen is 'ok'...still top half in terms of FIP, and most numbers that one would care about. Still not what you might want for a team that looks good enough to compete with the best in the post season. But the thing that is most concerning to me...the Twins are right at the bottom of MLB in innings pitched by bullpen. In other words, this is as good as it's likely to get with the current cast of characters. Any regression/struggle at all by the starters and we'll see more of the bottom half of this bullpen in leverage situations. Maybe that doesn't matter in the race to win the ALC? Maybe that won't matter in the post-season with Pineda and/or Perez moving to the pen? Maybe Mejia will ride in on a white horse?


Great post and you hit the nail on the head.

The bullpen had been sufficient for the needs at a time. The bullpen wasn’t being tested the way it MAY (probably) need to be tested.

It’s like a company truck repair shop with two bays. Business was booming and the trucks regular maintenance was being handled and the freight was being delivered without interruption.

All of a sudden the breakdowns started occurring in bunches. The trucks started stacking up because two bays were not enough and now the company is turning down freight and losing money as a result.

The Twins have a choice.

A. Carry on as normal and wait for things to stabilize dropping the occasional loss in the short term with the likely risk of things not stabilizing.

B. Since business is good. Grow with the business and don’t let something that can be fixed slow you down.

I choose B
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Posted 14 June 2019 - 01:01 PM

June 14. Best record in baseball. Double-digit lead in the division. Worst team in baseball coming into Target Field this weekend to serve up a feast of dingers, doubles, and tater tot hot dish.

 

Yet we are beside ourselves with agony and complaining like crazy about the one weak spot on this squad. Compared to other teams our bullpen is decent - but it's not THE BEST and therefore we are worried and grousing daily.

 

I just figured it out: this must be exactly what it feels like to be a Yankees fan.

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 01:30 PM

With a 45-22 record and a double digit game lead in the Central, the Twins have the luxury of being able to play just over .500 ball for the entire remaining 95 games and still finish with a 93-69 record. I would like to think that the plan is to wait for key trading deadlines before making any moves and still being able to have starters pitch 5 or 6 innings max. Only injuries and /or a total offensive collapse can keep the Twins from winning the Central and they can play with house money until the right moves are available. The bull pen actually has been a key factor in multiple wins this year and giving up a few runs with a 10-1 lead is no big deal.


The problem with waiting is that if they wait too long, there may not be any body worth getting left.

Better to get people in sooner and evaluate them, slot them into a role and then regulate their workload so they are ready for October. Why let a non-contender wreck someone so they can win 72 games instead of 70?

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 01:35 PM

It makes no sense that Romero’s problems stem from moving to the bullpen. Starting or relieving, he should be able to throw a strike. I’m guessing there’s an injury, a mechanical issue, a psychological blockage, a strategic blunder, or some combination of those things. One doesn’t suddenly forget how to pitch because they enter in the sixth inning.
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Posted 14 June 2019 - 01:38 PM

June 14. Best record in baseball. Double-digit lead in the division. Worst team in baseball coming into Target Field this weekend to serve up a feast of dingers, doubles, and tater tot hot dish.

Yet we are beside ourselves with agony and complaining like crazy about the one weak spot on this squad. Compared to other teams our bullpen is decent - but it's not THE BEST and therefore we are worried and grousing daily.

I just figured it out: this must be exactly what it feels like to be a Yankees fan.


Successful teams come with higher expectations... A team needs to have a good bullpen to win and move on in the playoffs. That's why we agonize over this weak spot on the team...
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Posted 14 June 2019 - 02:14 PM

Successful teams come with higher expectations... A team needs to have a good bullpen to win and move on in the playoffs. That's why we agonize over this weak spot on the team...


Agreed. Not saying we shouldn't agonize. It's just that this is uncharted territory for most of us. Last time the Twins were this stacked the internet and forums like this didn't exist. We wrote letters to the editor in 1991 and I can guarantee you none of those with complaints were published.
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Posted 14 June 2019 - 03:35 PM

Agreed. Not saying we shouldn't agonize. It's just that this is uncharted territory for most of us. Last time the Twins were this stacked the internet and forums like this didn't exist. We wrote letters to the editor in 1991 and I can guarantee you none of those with complaints were published.


I've been waiting for this moment for a long time... Now my constant pleads to trade prospects for MLB players will be taken seriously!! :)
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Posted 14 June 2019 - 07:35 PM

Agreed. Not saying we shouldn't agonize. It's just that this is uncharted territory for most of us. Last time the Twins were this stacked the internet and forums like this didn't exist. We wrote letters to the editor in 1991 and I can guarantee you none of those with complaints were published.


If there had been “fun with numbers” in 1991, when the Twins started 2-9, they had two guys batting their jersey numbers. Dan Gladden was hitting .032 and Junior Ortiz was hitting 0.
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