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Article: SEA 9, MIN 6: Bullpen, Errors Spoil Buxton’s Dramatic Homer

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#41 Little Potato

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 01:33 PM

In terms of last night's blown loss by the bullpen, some criticism has to go to Baldelli for misusing the arms he had. If you watched May the night before he was very shaky yet he got through it but he looked spent. Parker has been a disaster area every time hegoes out. Your rested arms were Morin and Eades. Morin has not gotten enough credit for how good he has been given the garbage coming fromthe pen. Only two runs in 14 appearances. 

 

So he uses Morin for a third of an inning when he could have done an inning and a third. Then he brings in May who should have been rested and when he gets in trouble he brings in Parker who is obviously terrible to anyone watching. He should have been the last resort. I am not sure Baldelli knows how to handle the arms he has in the pen and he just goes by the role he has for them regardless of how they perform. The worse the bullpen has been, the better Baldelli has to be to pick the right guy at the right time. He seems to be great on the hitting side so hopefully he can replicate it on the bullpen side.


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Posted 13 June 2019 - 02:01 PM

This was my fault guys. First game I attended this year. It was ugly, I took the kids home after the 3 run homer. Magically when I leave they start playing better. Checked in on my phone and I was excited to see they came back. Turned on the TV to start the 10th... Again my fault I am a curse for this team... I will stay away.

 

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#43 Mr. Brooks

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 02:30 PM

In an equal population where are all the extra partners coming from for the men? If there are 8 men and eight women it is possible for each man to have 8 different female partners but not if each of the women have only 4 different male partners no matter how it is distributed. In a population of 100 men and 100 women it is not possible for men to be with women 800 times (100X8 on average) while women have been with men only 400 times on average. Every time a man has been with a woman a woman has also been with a man...
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Yes, the Twin pen can be worse than other contenders and getting worse. It can still get covered up by good starting pitching, offense and good fortune and at this point doesn't need a 70% win percentage. It has been a weakness but far from a fatal weakness. 3 or 4 years ago Perkins and Jepsen blew about 5 games in two weeks and the team never recovered. The pen this year has blown several games but has contributed greatly to quite a few wins also. Overall, I am not at all unhappy with the performance of the pen thus far. I wasn't expecting lights out and they have done enough to preserve enough wins to keep me happy. Yes, I want a couple better pitchers to increase the odds of continuing to feel that way. Go talk to the fans of the teams that have blown 12 games so far. I do fear they are getting worse but a lot of my fear has to do with Rogers. I don't know how serious that is.


I don't know how to break this to you, but man + woman isn't the only possible combination of partnership.
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#44 Dantes929

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 03:36 PM

 

I don't know how to break this to you, but man + woman isn't the only possible combination of partnership.

So many possible jokes to respond.I tried to make it clear that the men were asked how many different females they were with and the women were asked how many guys they were with. Otherwise, transgender, same gender, animal, corpse, robotic and alien encounters couldaffect the result. I suppose the definition of sex could affect the results but I suspect the answer is that men tend to inflate their numbers and women tend to be more conservative in their answers.Either that or the polling methodology was flawed. Maybe they shouldn't have asked all the drunk guys in front of the frat house and fewer women of the Temperance and Abstinence League.

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#45 Mr. Brooks

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 04:35 PM

So many possible jokes to respond. I tried to make it clear that the men were asked how many different females they were with and the women were asked how many guys they were with. Otherwise, transgender, same gender, animal, corpse, robotic and alien encounters could affect the result. I suppose the definition of sex could affect the results but I suspect the answer is that men tend to inflate their numbers and women tend to be more conservative in their answers. Either that or the polling methodology was flawed. Maybe they shouldn't have asked all the drunk guys in front of the frat house and fewer women of the Temperance and Abstinence League.


Sorry, missed that qualifier then.

I'd guess you are correct then. Men tend to inflate their actual achievements.

#46 Sconnie

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 05:52 PM

Well, yeah... but I can still blame the offense, the base running and the defense too. I am fine with putting blame on the pen for this one as well as a few other games and a few blown saves, and no, I am not happy with the bullpen as is but Is it really the view of everyone that other bullpen's are awesome and strike everyone out? I am sure the Dodgers, Cubs, Red Sox, Astros and Yankees bullpens just strike everyone out, especially their closers. I just have a hard time reconciling it with the fact that they all have 2 or 3 times as many blown saves and higher blown save % than the Twins. Kind of reminds me of the results of a poll I once heard on the radio. Said that on average guys have relations with 8 different women in their life and on average women only have relations with 4 different guys. Everyone around me nodded their head and said that sounds about right. I pointed out that unless there are twice as many women that is not how average works. They insisted the poll was correct and math is just wrong..

that is the thing with polls... sample size matters....

good point on saves I think you can reconcile that with run differential. At plus 110 runs, they have more blow outs, fewer save opportunities.

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 07:37 PM

I was watching the game on mute with the fam and after watching the replay I commented that they might give Cron an error on the throw. Nothing about that was Garver's fault.

 

Even on the replay, the runner is safe if Garver had caught that cleanly. There is nothing he could have done with that throw to make an out.

That play is on Cron, not on Garver.

 

To read here that they charged Garver with an error is really surprising.

FWIW, here is what the Official Scorer at the game has to say: "High throw but should have been caught. I thought he would have put Gordon out so it was a missed out error and no RBI."

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