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#101 mlhouse

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Posted 05 June 2019 - 05:42 PM

 

Man alive, what a weird draft! I have nothing in the way of conclusions as to the strategy of this thing.

 

Only six out of 40 picks are HS prospects, and two of those at least are by all appearances kind of salutatory selections, the Stillwater pitchers headed to Oregon State. But hey, they may have a price in mind, who knows.

 

So that leave four prospects who may or may not be worthy of an overslot offer, three of them pitchers. I sure hope they represent this year's Balazovic.

 

It somehow feels like this 4YR JR designation is some sort of flaw with a drop-down box in the database and not some sort of incredibly intense tactical decision. My Lord!

 

Weird draft. Weird. But hey Mr. Sixel, even though they're not early selections, they sure as heck got you your pitchers via Rule 4.;)

 

Welcome to the modern MLB draft.


#102 birdwatcher

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Posted 05 June 2019 - 06:26 PM

 

Welcome to the modern MLB draft.

 

 

The modern era must've started this year? 

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#103 mlhouse

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Posted 05 June 2019 - 07:14 PM

 

The modern era must've started this year? 

 

Maybe for the Twins.


#104 Seth Stohs

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Posted 05 June 2019 - 07:33 PM

 

If they have to give them a 500K each, are those two the best HS/JC kids to try to temp? I wouldn't want them just because they're local.

 

They wouldln't draft them just because they are local.

 

Also, they're committed to Oregon State, one of the best college baseball programs in the country... they're clearly legit. 

 

But because of that, my guess is $500K wouldn't be enough.


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Posted 05 June 2019 - 07:37 PM

 

As a financial professional (CPA, not a licensed financial advisor/manager, to be clear), it doesn’t make a lot of sense why someone wouldn’t take a contract of that amount.

Unless you think you’re surely going in the first round in subsequent years, you’re getting more than any signing bonus after college in total signing bonus/salary (and then, factor time value of money with getting the cash sooner). You work with a professional team’s development staff, getting a head start on what they want to see to crack the big-leagues. You dont spend half the year hurt f with a metal bat. You potentially accelerate your path the majors (at least your first cup of coffee - which is more $$$).

I think people get a little desensitized to these dollar amounts, and think, “only a million over the next 3-4 years, why not get your education.” (Just saw this excessively with the Amir Coffey situation). In reality, that’s likely what that person will make in total over the next 30 years....or entire career in other words (median personal income is roughly $31k).

Going to college right away is overrated.

 

 

I guarantee the Twins would take care of their arms much more than Oregon State will too.

 

And yes, a few guys that have the big commands and wind up at college get drafted three years later at a better or equivalent spot... most don't. 

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#106 DocBauer

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Posted 05 June 2019 - 10:18 PM

I have stayed out of commenting until now for a couple of reasons. Chief reason being the ML draft is fun but the ultimate crapshoot where you barely know anything initially, know only a tiny bit more a few weeks/months from now, and sorta have a decent/real perspective 2-3yrs from now.

That being said, I agree with the general sentiment this year just felt WEIRD! It sort of felt like nobody was great, except maybe for a few top picks, and nobody really knew who or what was great but everyone was following their own theory.

Everything I read was a draft of hitters and nothing even close to a sure thing in regard to college arms. But possible depth in college arms. So that leaves HS talent, which can be the hardest to project.

So the twins concentrated on BPA available, which was college bats. And a lot of them. Who am I to disagree? Other than ONE early arm, they followed their board and scouting reports, and then went all in for a collection of arms, mostly college, to see what they can find.

And it makes sense in a pitching poor draft. You can, to some degree, teach "pitching" and breaking balls and changes, etc. If you feel a college guy doesnt have room to grow, then you grab a collection of guys who have something to build on and develop.

Surprised and disappointed there wasnt a single HS pitcher with legitimate upside somewhere early like Enlow. But maybe that is the way this draft fell. I just have a hunch this FO picked a bunch of college arms who have something they like and can work with. Guys who might have had big senior years who they are hoping to bring on board now.

Hoping so.

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Posted 06 June 2019 - 08:08 AM

Sigh. Another draft has come and gone. I keep waiting by the phone in hopes that the Twins will eventually draft me.I am now in my 40s and was a mediocre left-handed pitcher in high school, but perhaps I could be a soft-tossing LOOGY at this point.Oh well. They clearly had their sights set on college pitchers in this draft, so i clearly wasn't a draft priority.I can always hope for next year.Until then, I'll have to keep cheering for the team, and occasionally bring my glove to a game.Go Twins!

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Posted 06 June 2019 - 10:36 AM

The Braves were able to draft Langeliers because they did not sign Carter Stewart last year. Had they signed Stewart last year, the Braves would not have had the #9 selection this year. The Twins would have had the 12th pick rather than the 13th pick and still may have selected Cavaco had Langeliers still been available. But, they might have taken Langeliers. Who do you all like as a better pick? Cavaco or Langaliers? I was hoping Langaliers would be available, but I am not displeased by the pick of the Twins.


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Posted 06 June 2019 - 11:19 AM

Sigh. Another draft has come and gone. I keep waiting by the phone in hopes that the Twins will eventually draft me. I am now in my 40s and was a mediocre left-handed pitcher in high school, but perhaps I could be a soft-tossing LOOGY at this point. Oh well. They clearly had their sights set on college pitchers in this draft, so i clearly wasn't a draft priority. I can always hope for next year. Until then, I'll have to keep cheering for the team, and occasionally bring my glove to a game. Go Twins!


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#110 TD Mac

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Posted 08 June 2019 - 10:02 PM

Uhhh ... we drafted a college 3B from UCLA who batted .190?!?! “Over-analytics”??

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Posted 09 June 2019 - 06:14 AM

 

Uhhh ... we drafted a college 3B from UCLA who batted .190?!?! “Over-analytics”??

 

 

Of course they drafted him, silly!

 

The portable air foil machine the Area Assistant Director of Amateur Talent Evaluation carries around detected an under-drag coefficient anomaly just above the grip on his bat. They'll simply outfit him with the correct bat and adjust the position of his left thumb by a quarter inch. Presto.

Edited by birdwatcher, 09 June 2019 - 06:15 AM.

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#112 sdangus

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Posted 09 June 2019 - 08:00 AM

It looks like they drafted a lot of guys who may have had down years that they have high hopes. Along with a long line of pitchers that have some building blocks to work with. In every draft, if you can get a couple of pieces from lower in the draft, it's a success. So if just a couple of these college pitcher turn out, that would be normal.

I was disappointed, too, that there were not many high upside high school kids. But it takes 2 to get a deal done. If they could not find kids that were willing to sign for what they could pay, then why draft them. If the college pitcher is willing to sign, take a shot on him. Just thinking.

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