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#21 Carole Keller

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Posted 17 May 2019 - 04:33 AM

What iPad are you using? I haven’t seen any issues on my iPad Air 2 and certainly not any issues on my iPhone XS.

I have an iPad Air ... not sure what generation, but I’ve had it a while so probably the first generation. This is what I’m experiencing with the ads of late:

1. It takes time for them to load. And as they change and load, which they do as I’m reading, the width of the banners change causing the page to ‘jump’. So by the time I choose what forum to touch on, or thread, or article ... just as I do, the page jumps and I find myself in the wrong place.

2. The bottom screen banner pop-up is the worst. I’m about to click ‘post’ and the bottom banner pops up and I find myself being taken to that ad page. It covers the bottom, hmm 4th or 5th, portion of my screen and I have to actually click it off to get to some of the moderator functionality. Several times. Or have to scroll to click post, or more reply options.

3. The banner ads between thread posts ... I didn’t mind that there was one between the first post of a thread page and the rest, but now these banner ads pop up between, roughly, every third post.

4. The ads along the right side sometimes flash when I’m scrolling, causing the whole page to kind of flash. It’s very difficult to read content when that happens.

I’m all for why we have ads ... to give us all a free site to come to, and have never used an ad blocker, and and even enjoy the shoe ads, but the new ads do hinder how I am able to read and navigate the site, while using my iPad, which I use about 75% of the time.

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#22 Carole Keller

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Posted 17 May 2019 - 04:57 AM

I edited the above post, and this was how far I had to scroll to find the ‘submit modified post button:

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Same with clicking ‘add reply’ on this post. Have to scroll through several screens to get there.

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#23 Brock Beauchamp

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Posted 17 May 2019 - 12:14 PM

FYI, work is being done on the flickering issue (which I finally saw for myself). These changes have to be made from the ad provider side of things so hang in there for a few days, it could take time for the changes to go through their internal processes and get to their dev team.

 

I will be tackling these other issues in the coming week; right now, I have some other pressing ad issues to deal with that have to be taken care of first.

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Posted 17 May 2019 - 06:26 PM

It's probably worth noting that the new format is crushing my CPU/RAM.Fan is running constantly when I'm on. I'm not losing sleep over it, but worth a note.

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Posted 17 May 2019 - 06:50 PM

It's probably worth noting that the new format is crushing my CPU/RAM. Fan is running constantly when I'm on. I'm not losing sleep over it, but worth a note.

Noted. We’re going to have to refine this process quite a bit but know that so far, our revenue appears to be rising enough to start talking about how to increase writer pay for the site.

It’s not a perfect process, I know, but it’s what makes Twins Daily work and draws writers into the fold. Without an increase in ad revenue, Tom wouldn’t have committed to his game recaps and writer management tasks. Regular writers wouldn’t keep doing MiLB recaps. Etc etc.

Everything has a price. We’ll keep trying to improve the experience but this is needed to keep Twins Daily moving forward.

Again, to emphasize, we owners take virtually nothing from the ad revenue pot. It’s there for writers, not ownership.
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#26 Carole Keller

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Posted 19 May 2019 - 09:17 AM

FYI, work is being done on the flickering issue (which I finally saw for myself). These changes have to be made from the ad provider side of things so hang in there for a few days, it could take time for the changes to go through their internal processes and get to their dev team.
 
I will be tackling these other issues in the coming week; right now, I have some other pressing ad issues to deal with that have to be taken care of first.


Another issue I’m having with my iPad, which I suspect is related to the constant loading of ads(?), but I’m getting a lot of error messages about pages needing to be reloading because of a problem. Again, this is an iPad issue. Along with the constant jumping of pages, it’s a reading issue. But it really gets annoying when I’ve thought through and written a long post, and that happens before I hit post, I lose everything I’ve written and have to start over. I’m just letting you know the issues as they come up. I do appreciate you are working on things, and have priorities, just giving you the full picture of issues I’m experiencing.

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#27 Brock Beauchamp

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Posted 19 May 2019 - 05:47 PM

 

Another issue I’m having with my iPad, which I suspect is related to the constant loading of ads(?), but I’m getting a lot of error messages about pages needing to be reloading because of a problem. Again, this is an iPad issue. Along with the constant jumping of pages, it’s a reading issue. But it really gets annoying when I’ve thought through and written a long post, and that happens before I hit post, I lose everything I’ve written and have to start over. I’m just letting you know the issues as they come up. I do appreciate you are working on things, and have priorities, just giving you the full picture of issues I’m experiencing.

That likely isn't an ad issue, as it comes and goes with my phone on a pretty regular basis and has for a long time. I haven't been able to pin down the issue.


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Posted 20 May 2019 - 09:17 AM

Maybe useful, maybe amusing, maybe I shouldn't have bothered.... :)

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Posted 20 May 2019 - 02:51 PM

Maybe useful, maybe amusing, maybe I shouldn't have bothered.... :)
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Hah. That should have been commented out.

#30 Carole Keller

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Posted 22 May 2019 - 04:40 AM

That likely isn't an ad issue, as it comes and goes with my phone on a pretty regular basis and has for a long time. I haven't been able to pin down the issue.

it’s just happening at a much higher rate recently. Just can’t help but think it’s not a coincidence, but maybe it is.
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#31 Mike Sixel

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Posted 24 May 2019 - 12:14 PM

Congrats on putting in more ads that move the screen content around, just as I try to click on content, so I end up following the ad.......

 

If my website ever starts attracting enough viewers to make money, I hope I find a way that doesn't involve this....

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Posted 27 May 2019 - 10:37 PM

 

If my website ever starts attracting enough viewers to make money, I hope I find a way that doesn't involve this....

You likely will, as your site won't have 15-20 people touching in on a daily basis to make it work and 20-30 people touching in regularly to keep the content fresh.

 

I don't mean to sound like a dick here but Twins Daily is in a bit of a middle ground that's really hard to navigate. First off, we actually PAY our writers. We've had more than a few writers come to us from other, larger reaching and more established, organizations because we actually give the money we make back to them instead of expecting them to work 20 hours a week for $200 a month.

 

Believe it or not but that's actually the norm in this industry. We want to be better than that.

 

On the other hand, massive sites are able to maintain a staff and pay a few select individuals a working salary. We're not there, nor will we likely ever be. Those sites can afford to pay both tech and content enough to work them 40 hours a week with a decent salary.

 

I'm defensive because this **** is REALLY HARD. We're working outside parameters of pretty much everyone. And they're good parameters to work outside because we care more about the community than profits (as evidenced by every single owner of the site having an outside income that greatly outweighs what we take from this website).

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#33 Mike Sixel

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Posted 28 May 2019 - 10:48 AM

 

You likely will, as your site won't have 15-20 people touching in on a daily basis to make it work and 20-30 people touching in regularly to keep the content fresh.

 

I don't mean to sound like a dick here but Twins Daily is in a bit of a middle ground that's really hard to navigate. First off, we actually PAY our writers. We've had more than a few writers come to us from other, larger reaching and more established, organizations because we actually give the money we make back to them instead of expecting them to work 20 hours a week for $200 a month.

 

Believe it or not but that's actually the norm in this industry. We want to be better than that.

 

On the other hand, massive sites are able to maintain a staff and pay a few select individuals a working salary. We're not there, nor will we likely ever be. Those sites can afford to pay both tech and content enough to work them 40 hours a week with a decent salary.

 

I'm defensive because this **** is REALLY HARD. We're working outside parameters of pretty much everyone. And they're good parameters to work outside because we care more about the community than profits (as evidenced by every single owner of the site having an outside income that greatly outweighs what we take from this website).

 

I was specifically talking about the ads that move the page around, not TD or ads in general. It's a well run site. I have no issues with the ads at all, other than the ones that, after the page loads, right about when you want to write or click, the whole page shifts, and you end up clicking the ad. This is a known issue on the web, and it isn't easy to "fix".....so hopefully you know this isn't about you at all. 

 

I had 5 people lined up to write, now down to 1. that's the hard part for me.

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#34 Carole Keller

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Posted 01 June 2019 - 10:03 PM

And then there's this wonkiness, while using Firefox. And as I'm typing this, I get a message box that reads "33 New Replies" ... which happens when someone else is posting a message as I'm typing mine. But there aren't 33 new replies. Those are all the replies already here.

 

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And I still have to scroll waaaaaaay down just to get the 'Add reply' button. This hasn't been fixed. That 1, 2, 3 business ... those are the pages at the bottom of a thread.

 

And the jumping around has gotten worse.

 

I get it ... I'm all for paying the writers more, they deserve it. But ugh ...

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