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#61 Buddy Holly

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 10:30 AM

I agree 5-5 against the Astro's, Yankee's, and Blue Jays is good, but you got to beat the teams in the East to get respect and start to change the culture if you want to take the next step. Cleveland still has the best Starters in AL and Lindor is back. 

You can't continue to win with only hitting HR. You got to manufacture runs when conditions dictate it. Good teams can do both, besides scoring 5 runs without hitting a HR, puts more pressure on the pitcher and defense. You have to be able to do both. I haven't seen a lot of " Small Ball". I like the winning, but sometimes you got to play the game smart late in the game. That is my point.


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Posted 30 April 2019 - 10:46 AM

I hate to pour cold water on this but:A first place team playing another great team and it only draws 12,000 fans.This is what led to Cleveland's garage sale.

 

When we (myself included) complain about cheap ownership, last night's attendance should be kept in mind.


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Posted 30 April 2019 - 10:53 AM

 

Does this game prove that Verlander and the Astros just can't compete with the big dogs like the Twins?

 

I can't love this enough.

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 10:59 AM

 

I hate to pour cold water on this but:A first place team playing another great team and it only draws 12,000 fans.This is what led to Cleveland's garage sale.

 

When we (myself included) complain about cheap ownership, last night's attendance should be kept in mind.

 

12,000 fans is what happens when you don't produce for many seasons and fail to retain season ticket holders. Even with the excitement that is building with the current team, it may take awhile to recapture your audience. 


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Posted 30 April 2019 - 11:13 AM

Odorizzi is so hot right now.

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 11:16 AM

Odorizzi is so hot right now.

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 12:01 PM

 

1-0. This is one of those games you look back near the end of the year and remember with fondness.

Or, to put it another way, it is definitely 1 of the 42 in the 60-60-42 rule. More importantly one of the 30 wins of those 42 needed to get into the playoffs. That is called stealing one. Beauty of Jake is that I don't think he will take the mound next time out expecting to throw goose eggs every inning. He will just pitch a professional game as long as he can like he always does.


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Posted 30 April 2019 - 12:11 PM

 

1-0. This is one of those games you look back near the end of the year and remember with fondness.

There's certainly one 1-0 game Twins fans remember going on three decades now.

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 12:17 PM

 

12,000 fans is what happens when you don't produce for many seasons and fail to retain season ticket holders. Even with the excitement that is building with the current team, it may take awhile to recapture your audience. 

That and it was a chilly night game on a Monday. Not exactly a prime outdoor MPLS viewing situation.

 

If they keep winning once school gets out and the weather warms up I can see Target Field starting to fill up more.

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 12:19 PM

 

There's certainly one 1-0 game Twins fans remember going on three decades now.

Ah yes, who can forget it? The walk off hit scoring Dan Gladden in extra innings... sealing the win for the legendary Gary Wayne... pulling us within 2 games of 6th place... so many memories to choose from!

 

https://www.baseball...199009190.shtml

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 12:25 PM

Ah yes, who can forget it? The walk off hit scoring Dan Gladden in extra innings... sealing the win for the legendary Gary Wayne... pulling us within 2 games of 6th place... so many memories to choose from!

 

https://www.baseball...199009190.shtml

I already used up my Nathan Fillion GIF quota for the week, sorry.

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 12:26 PM

 

I already used up my Nathan Fillion GIF quota for the week, sorry.

It's the thought (or lack thereof) that counts!

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 12:29 PM

 

I already used up my Nathan Fillion GIF quota for the week, sorry.

For next week, too.

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 01:09 PM

Kepler's 10-pitch opening at-bat is, I think, what Baldelli likes about having him bat lead-off. Sure, he's capable of depositing a first-pitch of the game over the wall, he looks comfortable in the role. A 9-pitch at-bat for Rosario also shows how much he has matured. Now if some of that new-found patience at the plate could rub off on Astudillo, oh my!

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 02:17 PM

Obviously, but we're probably not going to finish with 312 HR for the season like our current pace suggests. I think the poster is saying that eventually we'll need to find other ways to score if we want to maintain this winning percentage -- but I think we should be capable of doing that. Our BB% is low, but so is our K%, and we're not getting any BABIP luck right now either.


This offense is constructed as a feast or famine type. Lots of homerun power. Lots of strikeouts. Other than Astudillo, the best career obp on the roster coming into 2019 belonged to Nelson Cruz, and it was below .350. After that is Polanco, sub .333. Without HR this team is going to have an extremely difficult time scoring.
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Posted 30 April 2019 - 02:43 PM

 

This offense is constructed as a feast or famine type. Lots of homerun power. Lots of strikeouts. Other than Astudillo, the best career obp on the roster coming into 2019 belonged to Nelson Cruz, and it was below .350. After that is Polanco, sub .333. Without HR this team is going to have an extremely difficult time scoring.

Actually, not that many strikeouts, relative to other teams. We've got the 3rd lowest K% in baseball. Polanco, Rosario, and Kepler all project as better than average in K%. (Astudillo too, obviously!) Cruz, Schoop, Cron, and Marwin are all right around average. Garver, Castro, and Buxton project as worse than average, but not egregiously so. Sano will get his K's, I am sure, but it's not necessarily a big problem for this club.

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 02:58 PM

 

A 1-0 pitcher's duel may be boring for some casual baseball fans who just want to watch homeruns... for someone who works many games at Target Field, a 2 hour-15 minute game is wonderful (particularly when the Twins win.)

 

Like the judge that wants the case over, a civil case that the plaintiff waited 2 years to get his day. Some want it to end, and some want the full deal.

 

Fans come from miles to see games, have planned and anticipated the day for months. They come early as they can to watch the field dressed, batting practice, and maybe see their favorite close up, get an autograph, and a bobblehead, and find out where the players will exit after the showers, and wait there too to see them and get a chance to extend the special experience. It might be a young kids first MLB baseball game, something that will make a new fan for life. I get that those that might work the games like it ending quickly, but not me, never me. I think extra innings is the greatest thing that can happen. Drama, more baseball.... I get to be there longer. But I get where you are coming from..... I guess.

 

I loved this game. Time is no issue. Pitcher's duel, or explosive offense.... I love the drama of a close one, a comeback, a shutout, and the comfort of a blowout. Love love love.

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 03:06 PM

 

Time of game was actually 2:31, although it started 30 minutes earlier than usual (6:40) so it probably felt shorter.

 

Loved the game last night (especially the result), but it sort of highlights the modern pace of play / game length problem, from my perspective. No replay challenges, no mid-inning pitching changes, lots of strikes, very few baserunners (Astros just 6 batters over the minimum, Twins 5), home team didn't bat in the bottom of the ninth -- absolute perfect conditions for the quickest game reasonably possible -- -yet the game still took 2:31.

 

That's the baseline for why the average game is 3:04 and can feel like it's dragging at times -- because the baseline pace/time is already stretched so far, it can't really tolerate any further stretching. And that's why I'd love to finally see a pitch clock in MLB, rather than a 3 batter minimum or other more complicated changes. If we could pull this baseline down to 2:15, I think the average game would feel a lot crisper (and those 7:10 game starts would end by 10:00 on average). Pull the baseline down to 2:00 and that would be even better, of course, but I'll take what I can get.

 

Sadly, it seems like the pitch clock is just a negotiating tool between MLB/MLBPA, rather than a likely implementation, at this point.

 

I love baseball so much, I want it to be over. I get it, but baseball has never been about making it last less time to me. I love getting it right, and not allowing umpire errors (errors they really didn't want to make anyway, but did and do), but I despise changes that are all about time, and only about time.

 


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Posted 30 April 2019 - 03:53 PM

 

This offense is constructed as a feast or famine type. Lots of homerun power. Lots of strikeouts. Other than Astudillo, the best career obp on the roster coming into 2019 belonged to Nelson Cruz, and it was below .350. After that is Polanco, sub .333. Without HR this team is going to have an extremely difficult time scoring.

 

Definitely constructed for the feast or famine, for sure. I am surprised that the Ks are not happening to that extent yet, and surprisingly almost the lowest in MLB! I sure hope it doesn't mean that it will swing way in the other direction to hit the average/expectation. The batters are also using a pretty low amout of pitches - 3.77/ plate appearance - but I can't find how that ranks. So they could work the count more, but I like swinging at the right pitch, no matter when it comes, way more than not swinging at the meat (Mauer) and then having to fight off pitches, and not great pitches to hit, with 2 strikes. Whatever is happening, is working. So I hope they don't try to fix it.

 

So far, they have a middle of MLB (15/30) OBP at .328 as a team, and lead MLB in OPS (.835) and sluggng (.507), and are 29/30 MLB teams in Ks with only 190!


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Posted 30 April 2019 - 04:02 PM

When Sano enters the lineup, he’ll quickly add to the K rate. Astudillo out for awhile will curve it up as well. Sano figures to take at bats away from pretty much everyone with Marwin presumably used as a fill in all over.
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