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#21 wallyrichards

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Posted 14 April 2019 - 09:49 PM

 

likewise with Mejia who hasn’t pitched in over a week. 

Personally I'm impressed with Roco. He knows what he's doing and always seems to make the right move.

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Posted 14 April 2019 - 10:23 PM

The one thing that does worry me is our closer. I like Rodgers as our 8th inning guy but I'm not sold on Parker. I'm hoping its the cold weather that has affected him and that once it warms up he'll look a lot better. It was nice seeing Hildenberger come in and shut them down. I love watching him throw pitches in the mid 70's and get strike outs. He did a great job. 

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 12:54 AM

Ironic, the day after we're discussing Buxton's ability to stay healthy...he runs headlong into the outfield fence and...this time, he gets back up healthy.

 

A lot of things are different about this year's Twins squad.

Buxton seems to have confidence now that he lacked last season.

Garver looks like a real live pro catcher, complete with one knee down and a compact, dangerous swing.

Polanco's new sidearm throw actually looks stronger than his 3/4 delivery. 

Kepler looks like a solid player in all aspects now.

Rosie looks like an All Star.

Pineda looks like he's going to be a stud horse.

Berrios looks solid.

Hildy is well nigh unhittable, as is Rogers.

The new guys all seem competent and smart.

The bullpen still may need some help. Romero or Stewart? Both?

Much, much more interesting team than last year. These guys could cause some trouble, be disruptive, possibly be a bad example for the children. 

Carry on, 2019 Twinkies.

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 06:14 AM

 

Another example how Lady Luck can overcome players that choke in the clutch and a manager who hasn't a clue.
Inning #1 - Kepler on @B ZERO out.
No sacrifice to move Kepler to 3B to score on a sac fly
Polanco looks slow and strikes out looking on a Fastball that was inches away from the previous curve ball.
Missed opportunity. Bailed out by Cruz and Rosario.
Same inning Rosario on 2B, Two out.
Gonzalez bounces a low and away Curve to 1B for the final out
Inning #2 - Garver on 2B, ZERO Out.
No sacrifice by Schoop. He pops out to 1B. Wasted at bat.
Buxton picks up the slack and plates Garver
With one out, both Kepler and Polanco choke and fly out.
ATTN: MANAGER, BENCH COACH, HITTING COACH = 5 players saw a total of 9 pitches.
What's up with that - in the second inning?????
INNING #3 - ONE out, Gonzalez on 2B, Garver on 1B.
Schoop chokes and grounds a low and away curve ball into an inning ending double play.
Missed scoring opportunity.
ATTN: MANAGER, BENCH COACH, HITTING COACH = 5 players saw a total of 10 pitches.
Not including Garver who saw 5 pitches himself - and walked.
What's up with that - in the third inning?????
INNING #4 - Buxton on 1B ZERO out.
NO sacrifice, no attempt to steal 2B
Kepler chokes and grounds into a double play.
The DP is followed by 2 singles, before Rosario pops out to SS n a low and away Fast ball.
INNING #5 Garver on 2B, TWO OUT.
A hit means a run and Schoop grounds out to 3B on the first pitch he sees, a slider inside.
INNING #6 - Polanco on 2B via single and wild pitch. Two Out.
Cruz whiffs on a low inside slider on his 9th pitch of the at bat.
INNING #7 - Cron on 1B ZERO out.
No sacrifice, runner is not advanced.
Gonzalez flys to LF, Garver hits a DP to 2B.
MISSED OPPORTUNITY.
ATTN MANAGER, BENCH COACH, PITCHING COACH, BULLPEN COACH:
Poor decision on bringing May in to face 1 batter in the 7th and then haul him out again to begin the 8th.
Poor decision on bringing in Parker to start the 9th, since he worked on Saturday.
FLAVINE => Get some arms Baldelli can trust, otherwise this is a repeat of Molitor's bullpen use.

I am with you on this.Dilly Dilly has not impressed me with his management skills, yet it appears he as done some good work on player development.However, I am also willing to give hime some time. This team is just starting to develop some trends that he can act on. It looks like Kepler can handle the leadoff. Polanco & Buxton have taken the next step forward and we are getting what we should have expected from Schoop and Cron.Astudillo looks like he can play and should start taking AB's from Gonzalez.We need another pitcher (closer). We don't need Castro, especially after Sano returns. Those changes will allow for a deeper bullpen and give him something to work with.Let's hope he develops quickly!


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Posted 15 April 2019 - 06:47 AM

 

The one thing that does worry me is our closer. I like Rodgers as our 8th inning guy but I'm not sold on Parker. I'm hoping its the cold weather that has affected him and that once it warms up he'll look a lot better. It was nice seeing Hildenberger come in and shut them down. I love watching him throw pitches in the mid 70's and get strike outs. He did a great job. 

 

You just had to watch the inning to see it. 

 

We saw him step off the mound and look to the sky, like he had no idea where his talent was and no idea how to find it.

 

It doesn't inspire confidence watching a pitcher who clearly doesn't have confidence himself.

 

Hopefully, tomorrow is another day. 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 06:59 AM

 

Another example how Lady Luck can overcome players that choke in the clutch and a manager who hasn't a clue.
Inning #1 - Kepler on @B ZERO out.
No sacrifice to move Kepler to 3B to score on a sac fly
Polanco looks slow and strikes out looking on a Fastball that was inches away from the previous curve ball.
Missed opportunity. Bailed out by Cruz and Rosario.
Same inning Rosario on 2B, Two out.
Gonzalez bounces a low and away Curve to 1B for the final out
Inning #2 - Garver on 2B, ZERO Out.
No sacrifice by Schoop. He pops out to 1B. Wasted at bat.
Buxton picks up the slack and plates Garver
With one out, both Kepler and Polanco choke and fly out.
ATTN: MANAGER, BENCH COACH, HITTING COACH = 5 players saw a total of 9 pitches.
What's up with that - in the second inning?????
INNING #3 - ONE out, Gonzalez on 2B, Garver on 1B.
Schoop chokes and grounds a low and away curve ball into an inning ending double play.
Missed scoring opportunity.
ATTN: MANAGER, BENCH COACH, HITTING COACH = 5 players saw a total of 10 pitches.
Not including Garver who saw 5 pitches himself - and walked.
What's up with that - in the third inning?????
INNING #4 - Buxton on 1B ZERO out.
NO sacrifice, no attempt to steal 2B
Kepler chokes and grounds into a double play.
The DP is followed by 2 singles, before Rosario pops out to SS n a low and away Fast ball.
INNING #5 Garver on 2B, TWO OUT.
A hit means a run and Schoop grounds out to 3B on the first pitch he sees, a slider inside.
INNING #6 - Polanco on 2B via single and wild pitch. Two Out.
Cruz whiffs on a low inside slider on his 9th pitch of the at bat.
INNING #7 - Cron on 1B ZERO out.
No sacrifice, runner is not advanced.
Gonzalez flys to LF, Garver hits a DP to 2B.
MISSED OPPORTUNITY.
ATTN MANAGER, BENCH COACH, PITCHING COACH, BULLPEN COACH:
Poor decision on bringing May in to face 1 batter in the 7th and then haul him out again to begin the 8th.
Poor decision on bringing in Parker to start the 9th, since he worked on Saturday.
FLAVINE => Get some arms Baldelli can trust, otherwise this is a repeat of Molitor's bullpen use.

 

This made me dizzy.

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 07:01 AM

 

Another example how Lady Luck can overcome players that choke in the clutch and a manager who hasn't a clue.
Inning #1 - Kepler on @B ZERO out.
No sacrifice to move Kepler to 3B to score on a sac fly
Polanco looks slow and strikes out looking on a Fastball that was inches away from the previous curve ball.
Missed opportunity. Bailed out by Cruz and Rosario.
Same inning Rosario on 2B, Two out.
Gonzalez bounces a low and away Curve to 1B for the final out
Inning #2 - Garver on 2B, ZERO Out.
No sacrifice by Schoop. He pops out to 1B. Wasted at bat.
Buxton picks up the slack and plates Garver
With one out, both Kepler and Polanco choke and fly out.
ATTN: MANAGER, BENCH COACH, HITTING COACH = 5 players saw a total of 9 pitches.
What's up with that - in the second inning?????
INNING #3 - ONE out, Gonzalez on 2B, Garver on 1B.
Schoop chokes and grounds a low and away curve ball into an inning ending double play.
Missed scoring opportunity.
ATTN: MANAGER, BENCH COACH, HITTING COACH = 5 players saw a total of 10 pitches.
Not including Garver who saw 5 pitches himself - and walked.
What's up with that - in the third inning?????
INNING #4 - Buxton on 1B ZERO out.
NO sacrifice, no attempt to steal 2B
Kepler chokes and grounds into a double play.
The DP is followed by 2 singles, before Rosario pops out to SS n a low and away Fast ball.
INNING #5 Garver on 2B, TWO OUT.
A hit means a run and Schoop grounds out to 3B on the first pitch he sees, a slider inside.
INNING #6 - Polanco on 2B via single and wild pitch. Two Out.
Cruz whiffs on a low inside slider on his 9th pitch of the at bat.
INNING #7 - Cron on 1B ZERO out.
No sacrifice, runner is not advanced.
Gonzalez flys to LF, Garver hits a DP to 2B.
MISSED OPPORTUNITY.

Sorry to break it to you, but you're going to have to get over it. This is built to be an aggressive lineup and the personnel isn't there to play small ball. Which is a good thing. 

 

These guys were hitting the tar out of the ball yesterday, so personally the last thing I want to see is them giving away outs on sacrifice bunts. The Twins current offensive ranks:

 

BA: 3rd

OBP: 7th

SLG: 3rd

wOBA: 4th

wRC+: 4th

 

And they've done this by being very aggressive. That being the case, I think it makes a ton of sense to let these guys swing away and try to make things happen. Of course things won't work out more often than not, that's the way baseball works, the best hitters still fail the majority of the time, but it's also not automatic that a player can get a bunt down or deliver a sacrifice fly. The pitchers are professionals too.

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 07:36 AM

jacksson said "Another example how Lady Luck can overcome players that choke in the clutch and a manager who hasn't a clue." followed by a list of less than perfect events in a game that the TWINS WON.

 

Evidently, it is unacceptable to make an out and the Twins should still be in the bottom of the first in the home opener against Cleveland ahead 6000-0.

 

earth to jacksson

Who is in first place in the AL Central?

Name a game in which being successful one third of the time is considered to be excellent.

 

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 07:48 AM

 

Another example how Lady Luck can overcome players that choke in the clutch and a manager who hasn't a clue.
Inning #1 - Kepler on @B ZERO out.
No sacrifice to move Kepler to 3B to score on a sac fly
Polanco looks slow and strikes out looking on a Fastball that was inches away from the previous curve ball.
Missed opportunity. Bailed out by Cruz and Rosario.

Same inning Rosario on 2B, Two out.
Gonzalez bounces a low and away Curve to 1B for the final out
Inning #2 - Garver on 2B, ZERO Out.
No sacrifice by Schoop. He pops out to 1B. Wasted at bat.
Buxton picks up the slack and plates Garver
With one out, both Kepler and Polanco choke and fly out.
ATTN: MANAGER, BENCH COACH, HITTING COACH = 5 players saw a total of 9 pitches.
What's up with that - in the second inning?????
INNING #3 - ONE out, Gonzalez on 2B, Garver on 1B.
Schoop chokes and grounds a low and away curve ball into an inning ending double play.
Missed scoring opportunity.
ATTN: MANAGER, BENCH COACH, HITTING COACH = 5 players saw a total of 10 pitches.
Not including Garver who saw 5 pitches himself - and walked.
What's up with that - in the third inning?????
INNING #4 - Buxton on 1B ZERO out.
NO sacrifice, no attempt to steal 2B
Kepler chokes and grounds into a double play.
The DP is followed by 2 singles, before Rosario pops out to SS n a low and away Fast ball.
INNING #5 Garver on 2B, TWO OUT.
A hit means a run and Schoop grounds out to 3B on the first pitch he sees, a slider inside.
INNING #6 - Polanco on 2B via single and wild pitch. Two Out.
Cruz whiffs on a low inside slider on his 9th pitch of the at bat.
INNING #7 - Cron on 1B ZERO out.
No sacrifice, runner is not advanced.
Gonzalez flys to LF, Garver hits a DP to 2B.
MISSED OPPORTUNITY.
ATTN MANAGER, BENCH COACH, PITCHING COACH, BULLPEN COACH:
Poor decision on bringing May in to face 1 batter in the 7th and then haul him out again to begin the 8th.
Poor decision on bringing in Parker to start the 9th, since he worked on Saturday.
FLAVINE => Get some arms Baldelli can trust, otherwise this is a repeat of Molitor's bullpen use.

You're right, the Twins missed an opportunity in the bottom of the first. If only Polanco had sacrificed Kepler to third, Kepler would have scored.

 

 

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 08:45 AM

If a team averages a 6-4 record over 10 games:

 

They will finish with 97 wins and probably win the division or at least secure a playoff spot while people sing their praises. 

 

If a team average a 5-5 Record over 10 games:

 

They will finish with 81 wins and probably not reach the playoffs and end up drafting somewhere in the upper teens while people are indifferent about the team and future. 

 

If a team averages a 4-6 record over 10 games:

 

They will finish with 65 wins... they will not make the playoffs and will be drafting in the top 5 for sure and people will be calling for the managers head.  

 

The margins are razor thin. 

 

So far... we started the first 10 games off at 6-4... (on pace). And we are up 2-0 on the 2nd ten games. 

 

We have a 4-4 record against teams that are expected to make the playoffs and a 4-0 record against teams that are not expected to make the playoffs. 

 

We are 4-3 on the Road and 4-1 at Home and 6-1 vs American League Central opponents. 
 

It's a great start... Hats off to the Minnesota Twins. Go Sweep the Blue Jays. 

 

 

 

 

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 10:24 AM

Great series but the bullpen is starting to cause me concern. I'm afraid that Baldelli will wind up overusing a few relievers like Molitor did not because he is inflexible like Molitor was but because he lacks sufficient options. Hmmm, maybe that explains Molitor. It's hard when you take Saturday's game and get 3 scoreless innings from one set of guys in the bullpen and then go to Sunday's game and we give up 2 in 2.1 innings with the other set. Problem is that we don't have much we can trust after Rogers, Parker, and maybe May and Hildenberger. Mejia is inconsistent and trying to find himself and Vasquez was a disaster the first time out. Hard to trust him after that. Harper is the only one left and it sure looks like they don't trust him to do much more than be a blowout mop up man.I also read/hear that there isn't much in Rochester in the bullpen that would be immediate help other than "close your eyes and hope" or "could be good after further development" kind of guys. Not what you need if we want to contend. 

 

So, is the only solution wait for Magill, Moya and Reed to come back and hope they can be the answer?Anybody have other ideas?

 


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Posted 15 April 2019 - 11:17 AM

 

Another example how Lady Luck can overcome players that choke in the clutch and a manager who hasn't a clue.
Inning #1 - Kepler on @B ZERO out.
No sacrifice to move Kepler to 3B to score on a sac fly
Polanco looks slow and strikes out looking on a Fastball that was inches away from the previous curve ball.
Missed opportunity. Bailed out by Cruz and Rosario.
Same inning Rosario on 2B, Two out.
Gonzalez bounces a low and away Curve to 1B for the final out
Inning #2 - Garver on 2B, ZERO Out.
No sacrifice by Schoop. He pops out to 1B. Wasted at bat.
Buxton picks up the slack and plates Garver
With one out, both Kepler and Polanco choke and fly out.
ATTN: MANAGER, BENCH COACH, HITTING COACH = 5 players saw a total of 9 pitches.
What's up with that - in the second inning?????
INNING #3 - ONE out, Gonzalez on 2B, Garver on 1B.
Schoop chokes and grounds a low and away curve ball into an inning ending double play.
Missed scoring opportunity.
ATTN: MANAGER, BENCH COACH, HITTING COACH = 5 players saw a total of 10 pitches.
Not including Garver who saw 5 pitches himself - and walked.
What's up with that - in the third inning?????
INNING #4 - Buxton on 1B ZERO out.
NO sacrifice, no attempt to steal 2B
Kepler chokes and grounds into a double play.
The DP is followed by 2 singles, before Rosario pops out to SS n a low and away Fast ball.
INNING #5 Garver on 2B, TWO OUT.
A hit means a run and Schoop grounds out to 3B on the first pitch he sees, a slider inside.
INNING #6 - Polanco on 2B via single and wild pitch. Two Out.
Cruz whiffs on a low inside slider on his 9th pitch of the at bat.
INNING #7 - Cron on 1B ZERO out.
No sacrifice, runner is not advanced.
Gonzalez flys to LF, Garver hits a DP to 2B.
MISSED OPPORTUNITY.
ATTN MANAGER, BENCH COACH, PITCHING COACH, BULLPEN COACH:
Poor decision on bringing May in to face 1 batter in the 7th and then haul him out again to begin the 8th.
Poor decision on bringing in Parker to start the 9th, since he worked on Saturday.
FLAVINE => Get some arms Baldelli can trust, otherwise this is a repeat of Molitor's bullpen use.

 

This is satire, right? Twins had 14 hits yesterday and half of them were for extra bases (5 doubles and 2 HRs). Guys were making lots of hard contact and it was paying off for them. 2 walks, only 4 Ks from the lineup with 6 runs on the board.

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