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#21 nicksaviking

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Posted 08 April 2019 - 02:33 PM

 

Try him in the OF and see if he can platoon with Kepler, I'm guessing.......or at least PH sometimes and stay out there w/o being terrible.....

 

I wouldn't have minded trying him in the OF. Though even if they had, the way things are shaking out this year I wouldn't have wanted him to get too many at bats anyway. I used to be a platoon Kepler guy, I'm starting to buy into the hype and contract extension now though.

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Posted 08 April 2019 - 02:33 PM

I think Cave is staying unless they can put him in a package for a pitcher. We have to have a competent 4th OF with Buxton's injury issues and Cave proved himself to be worth playing for extended periods last year.Wade or one of the new AAA guys might be as good but haven't shown it yet and Gonzalez and Astudillo are converted IFs who can survive a game or two, or even a week, in the OF, but can't be an everyday OF for a month. 

 

To me, the interesting decision comes when Sano comes back and we now have too any IFs. Who goes - Adrianza, Astudillo or (dare I say it), a trade of Marwin G? I might vote for a Marwin trade if we could get a decent reliever back...... 

 

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Posted 08 April 2019 - 02:49 PM

Cave has an option remaining.
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Posted 08 April 2019 - 03:18 PM

Try him in the OF and see if he can platoon with Kepler, I'm guessing.......or at least PH sometimes and stay out there w/o being terrible.....


Giants’ Stadium (whatever they call it) is one of the largest outfields in MLB. You HAVE to have guys that can cover ground.

I’m surprised Baltimore didn’t claim him. I wonder at what point they simply bite the Chris Davis bullet.

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Posted 08 April 2019 - 03:42 PM

 

 Marwin and Astudillo are not OF.

 

Astudillo is Kirby 2.0 at CF.Routinely jumps and takes HRs away...

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Posted 08 April 2019 - 03:47 PM

Tyler Austin looks to me like a 1B power hitter, period. Decent glove, but the big question is, will he hit 30-plus home runs per season with an acceptable OBP? If so, then the Twins possibly blew it. CJ Cron appears to be that guy, but just older, and maybe a little slower. 

 

Might not matter anyway. Twins could bring up a prospect that's better than either Cron or Austin. Brent Rooker should be that, if he works his butt off at fielding first base. Or they could stand pat for now, using Astudillo to back up Cron. Whatever gets El Cherubo on the field is okay by me. 

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Posted 08 April 2019 - 03:49 PM

Austin is just going to park himself in a lawn chair in the outfield and leave the defense up to Dugger and Pillar.

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Posted 08 April 2019 - 03:58 PM

 

Marwin played more in the outfield last year than the infield, iirc.

 

I had forgotten that! Thanks.......I'm not in love with Marwin yet, but I'm also not out of patience to become so. 

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Posted 08 April 2019 - 04:12 PM

I’m surprised Baltimore didn’t claim him. I wonder at what point they simply bite the Chris Davis bullet.


Baltimore didn't have a chance to claim him, since he was traded before we had to put him on waivers.
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Posted 08 April 2019 - 04:33 PM

Don’t think Cave is going anywhere. A catcher and Adrianza are the most vulnerable, I think...but again, it could be Cave based on his option...and still good chance it’s moot if only one guy needs to DL in the next several weeks.

Doubt seriously that any major league team sees Austin as an outfielder, even a platoon OF. In 91 appearances, Austin started 3 games in the OF...that was awhile ago, with the Yankees...and they replaced him in two of those games.
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Posted 08 April 2019 - 04:42 PM

Austin should have a path to at bats with the Giants against lefties at 1B and pinch hitting for pitcher.
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Posted 08 April 2019 - 05:08 PM

 

What was it you were hoping the Twins would do with him?

 

The often stated dream of Austin having the ability to play some OF. The lingering question of is Cron better than Austin. 

 

He didn't play a single inning of OF in spring training so I've been assuming he just can't do it. If he could play some OF he wouldn't be headed to SF right now but he didn't play any OF so... I'll let my current assumption ring. 

 

And of course... He is starting tonight for the Giants and starting at 1B with Brandon Belt moving to LF. 

 

So for now... I'll just be watching to see who produces better... Cron or Austin... trying to compare and contrast in unique situations... National League... American League. I'm not saying my watching will do any good but that has never stopped me before.:)  

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Posted 08 April 2019 - 05:10 PM

 

Thanks for sharing.

 

That pre-injury 2018 line was a super small sample of course (86 PA), but a few of the underlying peripherals certainly weren't unsustainable: 12.8 BB%, 23.3 K%, .333 BABIP. He hasn't sustained anything close to that .246 ISO yet, of course.

 

FWIW, it looks like he had a similar cooling off in 2017, without injury. His 2017 OPS by month:

 

June: 1.001

July: .665 (further split into .754 first half of the month, .592 second half)

August: .539

 

Not that I necessarily buy that monthly splits are all that indicative of much...

 

Edit to add: also, this information would have been more encouraging if we had acquired him in the offseason. I don't like to appeal to authority, but I'm guessing the Giants wouldn't have traded him for Tyler Austin (to play outfield?) if Ziegler showed anything like that 2018 pre-injury line in camp this spring.

Yeah this guy kind of reminds me of Tanner English.Maybe slightly faster but all defense and no offense.He has a couple of years left to see if he can be special with the bat otherwise guys who can't hit are sort of a dime a dozen.


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Posted 08 April 2019 - 05:46 PM

The often stated dream of Austin having the ability to play some OF. The lingering question of is Cron better than Austin. 
 
He didn't play a single inning of OF in spring training so I've been assuming he just can't do it. If he could play some OF he wouldn't be headed to SF right now but he didn't play any OF so... I'll let my current assumption ring. 
 
And of course... He is starting tonight for the Giants and starting at 1B with Brandon Belt moving to LF. 
 
So for now... I'll just be watching to see who produces better... Cron or Austin... trying to compare and contrast in unique situations... National League... American League. I'm not saying my watching will do any good but that has never stopped me before.:)


If he gets most of his at bats against lefties I expect his numbers will look pretty good. As you are watching I would pay attention to how often he sits against right handed pitching and which of those pitchers is he missing.
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Posted 08 April 2019 - 05:53 PM

Second trade with San Fran this year, might be the start of building a trade relationship for a bigger deal for Bumgarner later in the season.

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Posted 08 April 2019 - 05:55 PM

Second trade with San Fran this year, might be the start of building a trade relationship for a bigger deal for Bumgarner later in the season.


No doubt the Giants are trying to recover from the bloodbath that was the Pierzynski trade.
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Posted 08 April 2019 - 06:11 PM

 

Second trade with San Fran this year, might be the start of building a trade relationship for a bigger deal for Bumgarner later in the season.

 

I'd take Will Smith off their hands too

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Posted 08 April 2019 - 06:11 PM

Cave? I have my doubts, you need 4 OF. And Marwin and Astudillo are not OF. Can Garver play the OF?


Beyond Marwin, in the high minors we got Wade, Andreoli, Rooker, Raley, Kerrigan, Davis, Wiel, and potentially Kirilloff. IMO I believe that should be enough to deal with the potential loss of Cave. Of course, the most important part of all this, is that we’d have to actually get something of value for Cave. Trading him for a prospect doesn’t seem like the best use of a trade chip like him, so I’m in favor of pairing him with one of our better prospects for a notable relief arm like Archie Bradley of the D-Backs, who already lost Souza for the year.
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Posted 08 April 2019 - 06:33 PM

I hope it works out for Tyler in San Francisco... He's got to stop this severe westward movement of his career.

 

From New York to Minnesota to San Francisco... Next stop moving west for him will be Japan or South Korea... or the Solomon Islands. 

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Posted 08 April 2019 - 07:02 PM

Happy for him and hope he has finally found opportunity and a fit. Sometimes that's what it takes. Cave could be considered an example of that. To be fair and honest, it Austin does well, and so does Cron, I'm not going to shed tears. I just don't think there was a spot for Austin now, or moving forward.
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