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#41 Shaitan

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Posted 14 March 2019 - 12:57 PM

 



No more August waiver trade deadline! This is good.

 

Now teams can tank even earlier and, when the Twins are below .500, the season is over even sooner. I don't get how this one helps the league.


#42 Vanimal46

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Posted 14 March 2019 - 02:16 PM

Now teams can tank even earlier and, when the Twins are below .500, the season is over even sooner. I don't get how this one helps the league.


Personally I never liked the 2 deadline dates... It made July 31st pretty anticlimactic the last couple of years. The August waiver wire deadline was weird and mostly used to block players from being traded to a division rival or whatever.
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Posted 14 March 2019 - 03:38 PM

 

Personally I never liked the 2 deadline dates... It made July 31st pretty anticlimactic the last couple of years. The August waiver wire deadline was weird and mostly used to block players from being traded to a division rival or whatever.

Yeah, that was always an interesting aspect. Multiple teams show interest, you pull the player back...maybe. What will be more interesting in teams making a claim. Of course, freeing up roster space can include a player...but this means a team doesn't have to work out a trade or anything. Pure dump. Also interesting on setting rosters for the playoffs.

 

 

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Posted 14 March 2019 - 08:23 PM

I sorta dig this "Election Day" idea for all star starters.It's an interesting twist that I hope is really successful and hyped.


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Posted 14 March 2019 - 09:01 PM

 

Regarding #2, I think the biggest plus is that it will be slightly safer for the pitcher. On the other hand, giving the batter a bit longer to size up the pitch may mean more line drives up the middle. It's hard to know, which of course is exactly why experiments are performed.

I think this will be a much bigger adjustment for the pitchers than the batters and catchers. (I was going to include umpires but then I remembered #1.)

 

How is this even possible to just change the distance from the mound to home plate MID-SEASON?!!!

 

I agree with the posters that say this is going to create more injuries as people try to adjust and compensate. Two feet doesn't sound like a lot but for someone who has pitched for 20 years at one distance to suddenly have to adjust?

 

And again MID-SEASON?!!!! Why not change the base paths to 82 feet or move the fences out 10 feet if they are going to try this customizable video game bull ****?

 

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 06:38 AM

 

Less than 10K per year? Does she pay her own work related expenses too?

 

I'm not saying that ballplayers don't make a choice....but there is a monopoly of 30 teams, rolling in billions of dollars virtually risk free, not paying employees. Did you know that non roster catchers get paid zero dollars in spring training? Working for major league teams that need someone to catch all the pitchers?

 

I agree with you Mike. 

 

Here's an article for all to read. 

 

https://www.sbnation...mericas-pastime

 

On page 1,967 of a 2,232 page 1.3 trillion omnibus bill. Section 13(a) of the Fair Labor Standards Act was amended to exempt minor league baseball players (Just Minor League Baseball Players... they are specifically singled out) from a class of workers entitled to minimum wage and overtime pay. 

 

I repeat... Page 1,967 or a 2,232 page omnibus bill. This was done under the cover of darkness by simply attaching it to the bill without discussion. It was discussed prior and rejected.

 

MLB Baseball purchased a couple of Senators.These are not normal Internship type arguments. 

 

This is bull crap. 

 

 

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 07:51 AM

Two way players rule is unnecessary and 13 max pitchers. Ohtani is listed as a pitcher until he bats in 20 games then the Angels can have him designated as position player.

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#48 Shaitan

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 08:00 AM

 

Two way players rule is unnecessary and 13 max pitchers. Ohtani is listed as a pitcher until he bats in 20 games then the Angels can have him designated as position player.

What about a P in the NL. When they get 20 AB does their "position" change?

 

I don't like that aspect at all. If a team wants to carry 15 pitchers, let them. They're the ones who have to deal with no bench.

 

In short, if a rule change raises more questions than it answers, it's probably a bad rule. Simplicity is good is baseball. If you want "what ifs" watch the NFL.

 

I'm curious if the 26-person roster rule changes for doubleheaders (and, similarly, the 13 pitchers rule).

 

 

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 02:21 PM

What about a P in the NL. When they get 20 AB does their "position" change?

I don't like that aspect at all. If a team wants to carry 15 pitchers, let them. They're the ones who have to deal with no bench.

In short, if a rule change raises more questions than it answers, it's probably a bad rule. Simplicity is good is baseball. If you want "what ifs" watch the NFL.

I'm curious if the 26-person roster rule changes for doubleheaders (and, similarly, the 13 pitchers rule).

What about a P in the NL. When they get 20 AB does their "position" change?

I don't like that aspect at all. If a team wants to carry 15 pitchers, let them. They're the ones who have to deal with no bench.

In short, if a rule change raises more questions than it answers, it's probably a bad rule. Simplicity is good is baseball. If you want "what ifs" watch the NFL.

I'm curious if the 26-person roster rule changes for doubleheaders (and, similarly, the 13 pitchers rule).

What this means Ohtani can bat DH for 20 games, but, in the NL without DH I don’t think pinch hitting counts as a game. So would the pitcher be selected in away game and then remove in bottom of 1st where a replacement takes over. You would have to do this 20 games x 3 ABs.

Need more info. Ohtani will be DH on days he doesn’t pitch in 2020. He isn’t pitching this year.

See: https://www.latimes....0314-story.html

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Posted 09 July 2019 - 11:01 AM



This would be a terrible idea for 25 teams in the league. If the goal is for NY, LA, Boston, and Chicago to hoard all of the amateur talent go ahead.
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#51 Kelly Vance

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Posted 09 July 2019 - 11:08 AM

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.


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Posted 09 July 2019 - 11:43 AM

 



This would be a terrible idea for 25 teams in the league. If the goal is for NY, LA, Boston, and Chicago to hoard all of the amateur talent go ahead.

Something I'd expect the head of a player's union to say these days. Doesn't solve anything, but like most things the players union comes up with, it sure would be great for all the very top end guys, and sure would be problematic (or worse) for everyone else. Let's make the next Bryce Harper even richer even earlier...meanwhile, the next Ian Kinsler or Adam Eaton (or Jaylin Davis) can start in independent ball and work at Walmart in the mornings during home-stands.


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Posted 09 July 2019 - 12:11 PM

 



This would be a terrible idea for 25 teams in the league. If the goal is for NY, LA, Boston, and Chicago to hoard all of the amateur talent go ahead.

 

Completely depends on how you set it up. You can do something like they do in the international market now with a limit in spending that's a hard cap. The big issue is that you then open yourself up to the same manipulation of pre-pubescent boys' futures due to the game by MLB teams offering under-table money.

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Posted 09 July 2019 - 12:12 PM

 

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

 

The draft is significantly cracked. This may not be the fix, but there are significant issues.

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#55 amjgt

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Posted 09 July 2019 - 12:51 PM

Let me guess... Tony Clark also wants the draft spending limits to go away?


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Posted 09 July 2019 - 01:02 PM

 



This would be a terrible idea for 25 teams in the league. If the goal is for NY, LA, Boston, and Chicago to hoard all of the amateur talent go ahead.

40 rounds of draft, with competitive balance picks, there is no lack of entry into the game. Tony Clark as head of the union that negotiated the last contract that includes the drafting procedures and payouts. If that contract is so awful in his opinion because it restricts how much prospects can be paid in bonuses he should resign for his failures.


#57 Mike Sixel

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Posted 09 July 2019 - 10:02 PM



This would be a terrible idea for 25 teams in the league. If the goal is for NY, LA, Boston, and Chicago to hoard all of the amateur talent go ahead.


I have an article three fourths written on how this could work.....
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#58 Mike Sixel

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Posted 09 July 2019 - 10:04 PM

Something I'd expect the head of a player's union to say these days. Doesn't solve anything, but like most things the players union comes up with, it sure would be great for all the very top end guys, and sure would be problematic (or worse) for everyone else. Let's make the next Bryce Harper even richer even earlier...meanwhile, the next Ian Kinsler or Adam Eaton (or Jaylin Davis) can start in independent ball and work at Walmart in the mornings during home-stands.



other than players making more money and having a say where they live and work, it does done nothing... Sure.
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#59 Mike Sixel

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Posted 09 July 2019 - 10:05 PM

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.


It's completely broke. Ask Kyler Murray.... And other athletes who would like some freedom before they are thirty plus years old....

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Posted 10 July 2019 - 06:42 AM

It's completely broke. Ask Kyler Murray.... And other athletes who would like some freedom before they are thirty plus years old....


Sounds like you're making an argument to decrease the amount of control an organization has over a young player instead of scrapping the draft. I concur with decreasing 6+ years of control on a young player.
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