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#21 LA VIkes Fan

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Posted 01 March 2019 - 02:51 PM

I think the FO has the timing down. A year of Schoop at 2B. If he performs, probably gets too expensive and leaves or we sign him without a no-trade clause. If he doesn't perform, we don't re-sign.If/when he leaves either Gonzalez takes over at 2B with Gordon or Lewis moving to his super utility role as a start to their MLB Career, or Lewis/Gordon takes over at SS and Polonco goes to 2B. If Arreaz is ready and Lewis/Gordon are not, Polanco stays at SS and Gonzalez and Arreaz play the 2B/Utl role. I think this all works. 

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#22 Mike Sixel

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Posted 01 March 2019 - 02:58 PM

 

I think the FO has the timing down. A year of Schoop at 2B. If he performs, probably gets too expensive and leaves or we sign him without a no-trade clause. If he doesn't perform, we don't re-sign.If/when he leaves either Gonzalez takes over at 2B with Gordon or Lewis moving to his super utility role as a start to their MLB Career, or Lewis/Gordon takes over at SS and Polonco goes to 2B. If Arreaz is ready and Lewis/Gordon are not, Polanco stays at SS and Gonzalez and Arreaz play the 2B/Utl role. I think this all works. 

 

Concur on all this. 

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It's been a fun year so far, GO Twins. 


#23 jrod23

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Posted 01 March 2019 - 08:32 PM

 

I think the FO has the timing down.

 

The FO makes millions for their decisions.We get "likes" for our comments.What I'm trying to say is this FO knows their $%*#.

HOWEVER, that's not going to stop me from preaching the likes of the prospects I likes.Arraez hits.And hits.Watching him play 2B, I wasn't not impressed.In fact, I thought he had very quick hands playing the right side of the infield.He's deceptively quick on the bases, and just has that savvy for the game that you can't teach.

 

Could you imagine though, if aaaaalllllll goes well, we'd have Polanco, Schoop, Gordon, Lewis, Javier, my man Arraez, and sleeper of the sleepers Michael Helman flooding the middle infield for years to come.That's going to be a good problem to have.

 

Eventually, the ball don't lie, and the right person is in the right position come The Show.

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Posted 02 March 2019 - 08:24 AM

As far a Luis Arraez goes, from everything I have ever read, the defense is adequate at 2B, he has very little speed or power. He has shown the ability to be able to play 3B and LF, although I am sure the jury is still out about how well.

The only way he becomes a major leaguer is if his bat stays atthat .300 plus level with an OBP about 50 points higher. He does seem to have some plate discipline.

If that were true, he could be a poor man's DH if he can offer OBP. The added bonus would be that he could be a fill in at several positions on a short term basis.

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#25 Sconnie

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Posted 02 March 2019 - 10:52 AM

The FO makes millions for their decisions. We get "likes" for our comments. What I'm trying to say is this FO knows their $%*#.
HOWEVER, that's not going to stop me from preaching the likes of the prospects I likes. Arraez hits. And hits. Watching him play 2B, I wasn't not impressed. In fact, I thought he had very quick hands playing the right side of the infield. He's deceptively quick on the bases, and just has that savvy for the game that you can't teach.

Could you imagine though, if aaaaalllllll goes well, we'd have Polanco, Schoop, Gordon, Lewis, Javier, my man Arraez, and sleeper of the sleepers Michael Helman flooding the middle infield for years to come. That's going to be a good problem to have.

Eventually, the ball don't lie, and the right person is in the right position come The Show.

oh no! Perish the thought! Too many valuable trade assets? Whatever shall we do?
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Posted 02 March 2019 - 01:06 PM

 

What is with this still ongoing narrative that Robbie Grossman is slow? Yeah he’s an awkward looking defender in the outfield but he isn’t slow. His 27.7 ft/sec ranked 119th out of 287 MLB players with at least 100 runs measured in 2018, and isn’t that far behind Max Kepler who checked in at 27.9 ft/sec.

I wouldn't say he's slow, but no one would confuse him for being fast. He strikes me as the cut-off for where speed could be considered an asset. 

 

Anyway, Schoop has attempted 10 steals in 680 career games, which probably says a lot more. 

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#27 cardsfan

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Posted 02 March 2019 - 01:27 PM

Schoop is puzzling like why the decline? If he gets back to 2017 levels you couldn't risk a big contract. Flip him at deadline.

I was amazed why Dozier declined last year. He was good at scoring runs though his OBP wasn't that great. Seems risky giving him longterm contract.

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Posted 02 March 2019 - 04:12 PM

Schoop is my favorite off-season move by the Twins. I believe last year was an aberration and Schoop will rebound to near '17 numbers. If the Twins are out of contention I could see them dealing him to a contender and getting a prospect or two. If they are in contention I think they should look at extending him. At 27, his best years are theoretically in front of him. They could also deal the 2B prospects for whattever help they need if they are making a playoff run.

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#29 HrbieFan

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Posted 02 March 2019 - 06:00 PM

Not giving up on Gordon! A lot of players take a year to adjust to the another level. Torii Hunter took a long time to make it to the bigs, happens with toolsy players
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Posted 04 March 2019 - 09:52 AM

 

Not giving up on Gordon! A lot of players take a year to adjust to the another level. Torii Hunter took a long time to make it to the bigs, happens with toolsy players

Hunter started 135 games for the Twins when he was 23. He wasn't very good until his age 25 season. (he did play 1 game at age 21 and 6 at age 22)

Lets hope Gordon is just a year behind Hunter and then has the same type of career. Gordon has had a much better minor league career than Hunter.




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