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With Marwin on board, dangle Rosie for controllable pitching?

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#1 nater79a

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 04:40 PM

I threw this out on Twitter today....  

 

 

Eddie Rosario could bring back some much needed pitching.

 

Could Gonzalez hold down LF until both Kirilloff and Kepler are manning the corner outfield spots?Maybe as early as later this season?  

 

In '20, if Jonathon Schoop is gone, could Gonzalez move to the middle infield (with Polanco) until Royce Lewis is ready?

 

Thoughts?

 

 

Edited by nater79a, 22 February 2019 - 04:43 PM.

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#2 h2oface

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 04:57 PM

Trade last year's best player, who is controlable. Not my idea of how to make the(a) team better. There is upgrade pitching available, and it is getting cheaper by the day.

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 05:31 PM

While we're at it, why don't we just trade Berrios too? Then we'll be ready for 2022 when our next round of prospects pans out as well as the current batch! 

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 05:43 PM

 

Trade last year's best player, who is controlable. Not my idea of how to make the(a) team better. There is upgrade pitching available, and it is getting cheaper by the day.

I'm with this. Keuchel and Gio Gonzalez are still available on the SP market. Kimbrel on the RP side. Do one of these before you trade Rosario. But get it done soon or forget it, these guys need to be in ST soon.

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#5 Mike Sixel

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 05:49 PM

If Rosario is their best player this year, not good.

I doubt he returns a legit MLB starter all that better than what they have. Now, in a package? Sure.

But I wonder who is available?
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#6 RaymondLuxuryYacht

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 06:02 PM

Would not be opposed to trading Rosario - but as always, would be interested in seeing a specific proposal before giving an opinion.


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Posted 22 February 2019 - 06:03 PM

or maybe dangle marwin for controllable pitching?


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Posted 22 February 2019 - 06:10 PM

You get worse in LF so you can get better starting pitching? It would have to be a great opportunity...the kind you don’t think will come around again when Kirilloff is established.

Rosario is better than Gonzalez overall as an everyday left-fielder. Gonzalez’s value is in the fact that he can be a solid league-average (Maybe abit more) offensive player as a utility guy. He’s better offensively than most utility player...players that can function defensively beyond corner OF and 1B. Which is more valuable in the era of 3-man benches.
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Posted 22 February 2019 - 06:16 PM

or maybe dangle marwin for controllable pitching?

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 06:19 PM

 

Trade last year's best player, who is controlable. Not my idea of how to make the(a) team better. There is upgrade pitching available, and it is getting cheaper by the day.

Not since the spawning of an aging asparagus have I heard such a dismal prospect. Even Tampa Bay doesn't trade a guy before he hits his peak. If death of snake bodes evil, trade of Rosario just spells trouble. Even a Yugo needs a spark plug, and that's just what Rosie provides - the plug that sparks this team to its heady glory. 

 

Obviously we cannot bond permanently to our favorite players, nor can we put all our plugs in one basket. If Rosie brought us Kershaw, that's worth considering. A horse on the mound is worth two in the field. Otherwise, if baseball is sixty percent pitching, then an average pitcher is sixty percent of losing.

 

I'd keep Rosie around until somebody better comes along. That's nobody on today's Twins.

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 06:28 PM

Of course trading for a controlled pitcher means three or more years. Kirilloff will be here by then....

Not sure how people expect to get better if they won't trade good players. I'd rather have Wade or Cave or Rooker or Kirilloff and another number three starter, than Rosario and what's his name they just signed.
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Posted 22 February 2019 - 06:31 PM

Jay Jaffe adds his 2 cents about the Marwin signing at FanGraphs. 

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 06:52 PM

I can see why a Rosario trade would make sense, but I'd leave that for the 2019-2020 offseason. Or maybe if we're doing terribly at the trade deadline again. But certainly not now.

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 07:10 PM

That's just post fodder! Sign Kimbrel and either make Cleveland earn it or play a 5 game series in October..


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Posted 22 February 2019 - 07:37 PM

 

If Rosario is their best player this year, not good.

 

Respectfully, how can you say that? He could have a MVP year and be the best player again, for all we know. That would be great! We can't assume last year will be better or worse.

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#16 Shaitan

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 08:05 PM

You trade from depth. But having a 4th outfielder and a budding AA outfielder is not depth to me (yet).

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 08:33 PM

Not since the spawning of an aging asparagus have I heard such a dismal prospect. Even Tampa Bay doesn't trade a guy before he hits his peak. If death of snake bodes evil, trade of Rosario just spells trouble. Even a Yugo needs a spark plug, and that's just what Rosie provides - the plug that sparks this team to its heady glory.

Obviously we cannot bond permanently to our favorite players, nor can we put all our plugs in one basket. If Rosie brought us Kershaw, that's worth considering. A horse on the mound is worth two in the field. Otherwise, if baseball is sixty percent pitching, then an average pitcher is sixty percent of losing.

I'd keep Rosie around until somebody better comes along. That's nobody on today's Twins.


Yugo Florida sold in the US from 1989-1991 was a diesel.... so nope.... Yugo did not “need a spark plug”. ;)
http://www.autosavan...sel-technology/

As an added bonus Yugos were made until 2008!
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#18 Joe A. Preusser

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 08:43 PM

Creative thinking.

Not a chance.

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 08:46 PM

I don’t see the market.

You need to find a team that wants to trade a good starting pitcher. They need to be contending or they wouldn’t want a return of a guy already in arbitration.

If they are contending why not just go out and sign a Gonzalez or Jones? If they are not contending why not go after prospects?

During the season a deal like Lawton for Reed might be feasible but even then the supply of left fielders is going to be greater than the supply of starting pitching.

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 08:57 PM

Of course trading for a controlled pitcher means three or more years. Kirilloff will be here by then....

Not sure how people expect to get better if they won't trade good players. I'd rather have Wade or Cave or Rooker or Kirilloff and another number three starter, than Rosario and what's his name they just signed.

Get lucky. Sign better talent. make smart extensions. Better player development. Smart coaching and player usage. Bringing up prospects who can contribute. And trading prospects for more immediate or certain returns. These are all also ways to get better. I'm dubious as to who would trade for Rosario in exchange for a young controllable pitcher sp upgrades the staff. Who has that much pitching?

Edited by Jham, 22 February 2019 - 08:58 PM.