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#1 Nick Nelson

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 12:02 AM

Per Brandon Warne, confirmed via Darren Wolfson who says the reliever will get a spring training invite:

 

 

Actually an interesting signing, and not just because Morin's an Andover, MN native. At age 27, he has logged 174 innings in the majors with a 3.32 FIP and 1.28 WHIP. Big buy (6'4" 220) and doesn't throw too hard but has a nice changeup, which he leans on heavily. 

 

Have the Twins found their next Matt Magill?

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#2 jokin

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 03:12 AM

 


 

Have the Twins found their next Matt Magill?

 

You mean for Red Wings bullpen depth?

 

At first glance, this one doesn't move the needle. I honestly thought he was washed up when I saw the name.

 

In the last twp seasons, he's thrown 93 AAA innings and 24 ML innings. Has he had arm trouble?

 

Career FIP/xFIP 2.89/3.44 vs RHB shows possible hidden retread value ala Magill.

 

Could be on the Rochester shuttle if he has an option left.

 

 

 

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 06:14 AM

Matt Magill is not good so it's quite likely.

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 07:15 AM

Could be on the Rochester shuttle if he has an option left.


No options left for Morin, he burned them in 2015-2017. Although Seattle was able to outright him to the minors 3 times last season.

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 07:50 AM

There's a typo in your comment, Nick.Couldn't believe my eyes with your comment that he logged 1174 innings in the majors, it was 174.

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 08:43 AM

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 08:47 AM

I really hope that this is just a depth move. 


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Posted 19 December 2018 - 10:16 AM

I really hope that this is just a depth move.


Yeah, but given the Twins it’s more likely a ‘hope and a prayer’ move. And he’ll make the roster out of ST.
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Posted 19 December 2018 - 10:16 AM

#OneOfUs strikes again

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 12:01 PM

No options left for Morin, he burned them in 2015-2017. Although Seattle was able to outright him to the minors 3 times last season.


Yeah, a guy like this might as well have unlimited options.
Nobody is likely to claim him, and if they do, there are 100 more just like him.
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Posted 19 December 2018 - 12:16 PM

 

At age 27, he has logged 174 innings in the majors with a 3.32 FIP

 

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Have the Twins found their next Matt Magill?

Statistically reminds me a bit of Oliver Drake in this way:

 

Morin career: 4.66 ERA, 3.32 FIP

Drake career: 4.59 ERA, 3.47 FIP

 

Or Tyler Duffey's 2017 season:

 

Duffy 2017: 4.94 ERA, 3.72 FIP

 

Guys who can record K's and generally avoid HRs, so they have a decent FIP -- but still get hit pretty regularly in MLB.

 

Magill had the reverse discrepancy, as he gives up too many HR (plus a few walks):

 

Magill 2018: 3.81 ERA, 5.08 FIP


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Posted 19 December 2018 - 12:18 PM

Fangraphs, May 2016: "Mike Morin Has Baseball’s Silliest Changeup"

 

https://www.fangraph...liest-changeup/

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 12:20 PM

His changeup is really intriguing (video here). 

 

If the Twins can tweak his fastball to make it a bit better than batting practice pitch, it will be interesting to see what may happen.Zero downside. Not even a 40-man roster spot. Plenty of upside, since he is 27 years old (a year older than Jake Reed for comparison.Now if he had Reed's FB, with that CH....)

 

Not a bad singing at all.

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 12:27 PM

 

In the last twp seasons, he's thrown 93 AAA innings and 24 ML innings. Has he had arm trouble?

That's primarily just modern reliever usage.

 

Morin did miss about a month in early 2017 with "neck tightness". (Has never been on the DL with an arm issue as a pro.)

 

He also "missed" September 2018 because the Mariners declined to add him back to their 40-man roster for a September call-up.

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 12:43 PM

Morin does already have 3 years and 41 days of MLB service time, so that limits his upside a little bit as compared to a guy like Magill, who came here with only 47 days service time. Limits our potential control to ~3 seasons for Morin, and after 2019 it would be at arb prices (although those would still be pretty reasonable, given his career to date).

 

Still, for a minor league deal, there's no risk at this point. It gets a little costlier if he makes the team and reduces the roster flexibility by being out of options, but hopefully he'd be making up for it with valuable performance or else he could just get cut (although it doesn't always work out that way).

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 01:00 PM

The Twins do pretty well with these signings so I'd actually be disappointed if they didn't buy a commitment-free bullpen lotto ticket this year.

 

Just so long as they aren't expecting him to help, planning on him to make the team or think that he in anyway counts as shoring up the pitching staff for 2019. He should be none of those things, he's just a cross-your-fingers-and-hope-for-Brandon-Kintzler guy.

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 01:03 PM

 

Yeah, a guy like this might as well have unlimited options.
Nobody is likely to claim him, and if they do, there are 100 more just like him.

Which brings us back to the question of why the hell do we want this guy, and how does this improve our team in any way? As others have said, lets hope this is a depth move and not a "rounding out our bullpen" move.


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Posted 19 December 2018 - 01:09 PM

 

Yeah, but given the Twins it’s more likely a ‘hope and a prayer’ move. And he’ll make the roster out of ST.

You're ruining my Christmas :)

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 01:26 PM

He was drafted twice, and selected off waivers twice - he's certainly got his admirers.:)

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 03:34 PM

He was drafted twice, and selected off waivers twice - he's certainly got his admirers.:)

Twice on waivers? Oliver Drake says, "hold my beer". :)

 

May 5, 2018: Purchased by the Cleveland Indians from the Milwaukee Brewers.

May 31, 2018: Selected off waivers by the Los Angeles Angels from the Cleveland Indians.

July 26, 2018: Selected off waivers by the Toronto Blue Jays from the Los Angeles Angels.

August 3, 2018: Selected off waivers by the Minnesota Twins from the Toronto Blue Jays.

November 1, 2018: Selected off waivers by the Tampa Bay Rays from the Minnesota Twins.

November 26, 2018: Selected off waivers by the Toronto Blue Jays from the Tampa Bay Rays.

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