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Article: REPORT: Twins, D-Backs Discussing Paul Goldschmidt Trade

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#1 Cody Christie

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 08:05 PM

Joe Mauer’s retirement has left a big hole in the Twins infield. However, the team might be looking to make a big splash on the trade market this off-season. MLB Network’s Jon Morosi reports the Twins and the Diamondbacks have engaged in preliminary trade talks about a deal involving All-Star Paul Goldschmidt.
Goldschmidt has been one of the most consistent players in the National League over the better part of the last decade. He’s been an All-Star for six straight seasons and added three Gold Gloves and four Silver Sluggers. During that same stretch, he’s finished in the top-3 for MVP voting three times.

Entering his age-31 season, Goldschmidt hasn’t shown any signs of slowing down. Last year, he hit .290/.389/.533 with 33 home runs and 35 doubles. Since 2013, he has the third highest fWAR in all of baseball. Only Mike Trout and Josh Donaldson are higher than him on that list.

Goldschmidt has one more year remaining on his contract and he is due to make $14.5 million next season. Minnesota would likely need to surrender multiple top prospects in a Goldschmidt deal. It’s also tough to paint the team in “win-now mode.” There’s no guarantee Goldschmidt re-signs with the team trading for him and he will likely want to test the free agent waters.

Goldschmidt might be keeping an eye on some of the big free agents this off-season to see what kind of market develops. Last year, there were multiple instances of players having to settle for contracts that might have been deemed below average. Goldschmidt might want the security of a long-term deal before hitting free agency, especially since he will be in his early 30s.

If Minnesota trades for him now, they would still be able to offer him a qualifying offer. He’d turn it down and then the club could get compensatory draft pick if he decided to sign elsewhere. If they waited to acquire him in the season, Goldschmidt wouldn’t be eligible for a qualifying offer.

Lots of teams might be interested in trading for Goldschmidt, but the Twins interest might not be all that serious.

There’s no denying that Goldschmidt is a great player but only one year of team control is definitely a deterrent.

What do you think it would take to get Goldschmidt? Do the Twins need him for next season? Leave a COMMENT and start the discussion.

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 08:56 PM

Would depend on how much Arizona wants for Goldschmidt.Certainly worth checking in, but depends on how much we have to send and how much salary the Twins take.

 


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Posted 20 November 2018 - 09:11 PM

As much as i love the player and the fit, this only makes sense if a) the cost reflects one year of him, or B) they can sign him to 4yr/$100m deal.
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Posted 21 November 2018 - 01:17 AM

As good as he is, only if there is an extension in place, and doesn't cost us Lewis or Khiriloff. With an extension in place, I would consider 1 of the 2. Reports seem to indicate Arizona may be looking to shed payroll and re-build. This could bode well. Assuming, for a moment, the talent in place, proves itself, does this improve the Twins enough? I'm still thinking where there is smoke there must be fire. I like a small trade to the desperate Phillies for Santana with multiple options to back up 1B/DH/OF and keep my top talent for promotion and maybe a mid season acquisition.
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Posted 21 November 2018 - 04:50 AM

Goldshmidt would be nice. One year of him is worth a prospect better than a comp pick.Two or three high risk high reward prospects will be the likely return if he is dealt to a non contender. As far asCarlos Santana as plan B goes Tyler Austin has a chance to provide what Santana has done the last 2 years. I do not think they would deal for Santana. Austin was brought in for a purpose other than to save a couplemillion dollars.

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 07:52 AM

My opening offer is Kepler, Gordon and Rooker and another mid tier prospect and see if I am even close.


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Posted 21 November 2018 - 08:07 AM

You cannot give up a ton without an extension. I’m guessing the Cardinals end up with him
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Posted 21 November 2018 - 08:15 AM

We are not going to win next year so an extended contract is a must, otherwise I love the idea.Who do we give up?Kiriloff and Lewis would be a big price, but it might require one of them.Can Lewis play 3B - trade Sano and Rooker with Kepler a possible add on or replacement for one of them.Do not mortgage the future.In baseball one player does not make that much difference.All the money that Harper is going to get and he could not take the Nationals to the promised land anymore than the player of the century - Trout - can make winners out of the Angels. We need 1B, SS, 3B, starting pitching and bullpen.Goldschmidt can cure one need, but if it is only for one year, we lose.

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 08:21 AM

 

As much as i love the player and the fit, this only makes sense if a) the cost reflects one year of him, or :cool: they can sign him to 4yr/$100m deal.

 

A) is hard though, because one year of Goldschmidt might not be worth terribly much to the Twins as they now stand, but if the Twins were in Houston or Cleveland's position, he probably would be worth a Kirilloff. So it's not like the Twins can gauge his cost based on what he's worth to them, AZ is going to want what he's worth to a team thinking he's the missing piece to a World Series.

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 08:24 AM

 

We are not going to win next year so an extended contract is a must, otherwise I love the idea.Who do we give up?Kiriloff and Lewis would be a big price, but it might require one of them.Can Lewis play 3B - trade Sano and Rooker with Kepler a possible add on or replacement for one of them.Do not mortgage the future.In baseball one player does not make that much difference.All the money that Harper is going to get and he could not take the Nationals to the promised land anymore than the player of the century - Trout - can make winners out of the Angels. We need 1B, SS, 3B, starting pitching and bullpen.Goldschmidt can cure one need, but if it is only for one year, we lose.

Yeah, I would think/hope that Kiriloff and Lewis are pretty much untouchable trade pieces at this point. As nice as it would be to get a player like Goldschmidt, I hope the Twins don't consider trading their top prospects for him.

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 08:30 AM

 

 

 

But in all seriousness, only way I do this is with a extension as well.  

 

St Paul?!?!The nickname alone is worth just about any prospect not named Lewis or Kiriloff 

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 08:41 AM

Just as I said they should on my blueprint for the Twins: http://twinsdaily.co...the-technology/

 

I'd be okay with almost any reasonable trade here.No way they give up Kiriloff or Lewis for one year of Goldschmidt...


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Posted 21 November 2018 - 09:14 AM

It would be so nice to have Goldschmidt. But the price must be reasonable. The Twins are NOT a team that needs to go "all in" on 2019, at the expense of the future.

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 09:42 AM

 

My opening offer is Kepler, Gordon and Rooker and another mid tier prospect and see if I am even close.

I doubt they get that much... 

 

He's on a 1 year deal. He's definitely a pretty nice upgrade at 1B, but he's a 1B/DH type. My guess would be one of our AAA pitchers and a lotto type in the low minors. 

 

 

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 10:16 AM

 

I doubt they get that much... 

 

He's on a 1 year deal. He's definitely a pretty nice upgrade at 1B, but he's a 1B/DH type. My guess would be one of our AAA pitchers and a lotto type in the low minors. 

 

A team like Houston could really use him though and he'd be a significant upgrade at 1B for Boston, New York, Tampa, Cleveland, LA Angels, Colorado and St. Louis. Normally I'd agree that the position devalues him but this is kind of an odd situation where pretty much every team that views itself as a contender is actually deficient at 1B. And the contenders are the teams AZ can milk for maximum return.

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 10:19 AM

 

I doubt they get that much... 

 

He's on a 1 year deal. He's definitely a pretty nice upgrade at 1B, but he's a 1B/DH type. My guess would be one of our AAA pitchers and a lotto type in the low minors. 

If the Twins want him, you don't dink around with trying to pay the least, you make a more than fair offer and possibly more and you get your guy.

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 10:33 AM

Any 3 of our prospects outside of the top 3. Then try to extend 5/150.

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 11:04 AM

I would ask them to throw in Grienke for a couple more bodies. The question, though, is what 25-man player would you include. What one or two starting prospects should you include. Do you ship one of your minor league first base prospects (who is higher now, Raley or Rooker). And what other prospects in the depth rich lower minors would be tantalizing. I would go after both. I would dangle Kepler. I would dangle Goncalves. I qould consider Stewart if you could ge Grienke, too. I wish Javier had played in 2018 as he could be a trade chip. i would also be ready to make a decision on Gordon if someone wants him.

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 11:11 AM

I don't see them dealing Grienke with Goldschmidt.

 

Unless their primary goal is cutting payroll, it just seems that attaching Grienke would just lessen the prospect return for Goldschmidt.

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 12:59 PM

 

I don't see them dealing Grienke with Goldschmidt.

 

Unless their primary goal is cutting payroll, it just seems that attaching Grienke would just lessen the prospect return for Goldschmidt.

I think shedding payroll is the only reason AZ is trading Greinke and Goldshmidt. I'd take them both, full contract, I would guess the prospect wouldn't be huge either.

 

I don't think they will and are just as likely to go the other way, but a guy can dream...

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