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#261 biggentleben

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 08:26 PM

 

Do you really think they'll cut him? I mean, they claimed him and signed him for a reason, are they really going to change their mind? And if so, what does that say about their decision in the first place?

 

It's happened around the league before and sure could happen again. Wouldn't be horrible on the Twins to do it, especially if someone like Rooker/Austin/etc. force the move.

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#262 Mike Sixel

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 08:37 PM

 

It's happened around the league before and sure could happen again. Wouldn't be horrible on the Twins to do it, especially if someone like Rooker/Austin/etc. force the move.

 

Force it how? You want them to decide based on spring training? I hope they aren't making these decisions based on spring training results. 

I remain hopeful on Buxton and Sano.....but I'd not bet the franchise on them.


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Posted 05 December 2018 - 09:23 PM

 

Force it how? You want them to decide based on spring training? I hope they aren't making these decisions based on spring training results. 

 

I doubt they'd make the decision based on results, but perhaps on how guys look.

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 05:08 AM

 

That's over 2 years ago, but sure, if we want to go back that far, I assume we are giving up on Buxton too. Or Sano. Since they've been hurt in multiple years. 

 

It's too early to say signing Darvish was stupid. It's also mind boggling that the some of the same people saying it was stupid praised the Twins for being the 2nd highest biddder.....in that it showed they would try to sign great players. Which, I have my doubts.

I did not know that 129+ million contracts or releasing them was even a remotely reasonable option for Buxton or Sano . no matter how you try to spin it that sort of argument is not the same. 

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#265 Vanimal46

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 07:30 AM

This came up recently in a discussion. Those deals to avoid arbitration are only guaranteed if the player makes the team. Cron right now is not guaranteed anything.


My apologies then, I misunderstood. And now I'm wondering what the point is to announce these kind of agreements if it's not guaranteed.

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 09:10 AM

 

My apologies then, I misunderstood. And now I'm wondering what the point is to announce these kind of agreements if it's not guaranteed.

 

The PR department needed something to do or they'd fall below full time hours and lose their benefits.

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#267 Mike Sixel

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 09:55 AM

 

The PR department needed something to do or they'd fall below full time hours and lose their benefits.

 

Well played, but do you really think they'd let them work enough for benefits? That would likely double their pay.

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I remain hopeful on Buxton and Sano.....but I'd not bet the franchise on them.


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Posted 06 December 2018 - 09:58 AM

Well, if the best you can do is "this is how we baseball" and running Buxton promotions all season while he's on the DL or in the minors, maybe high pay is not appropriate.

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#269 Mike Sixel

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 10:02 AM

 

Well, if the best you can do is "this is how we baseball" and running Buxton promotions all season while he's on the DL or in the minors, maybe high pay is not appropriate.

 

Touche

I remain hopeful on Buxton and Sano.....but I'd not bet the franchise on them.


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Posted 06 December 2018 - 11:24 AM

 

Well, if the best you can do is "this is how we baseball" and running Buxton promotions all season while he's on the DL or in the minors, maybe high pay is not appropriate.

 

On second thought, they might be unpaid interns.


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Posted 06 December 2018 - 11:29 AM

https://www.mlb.com/...4?tid=282421090

 

Eovaldi 4/67

 

 

Not exactly a bargain...but pretty good I suppose value-wise.

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 02:28 PM

 

https://www.mlb.com/...4?tid=282421090

 

Eovaldi 4/67

 

 

Not exactly a bargain...but pretty good I suppose value-wise.

Personally, I like that contract better than the Corbin deal from a team perspective.I'd be popping champagne if the Twins had done that.But hey, Adrianza!

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 06:51 PM

It's happened around the league before and sure could happen again. Wouldn't be horrible on the Twins to do it, especially if someone like Rooker/Austin/etc. force the move.


Would Cron be the most expensive arbitration termination pay case ever? Emilio Bonifacio got $574k, which was 30 days termination pay on his $3.5 mil contract because the Royals cut him before March 15. That would be equivalent to $787k on Cron's $4.8 mil contract.

But if the Twins waited until after March 15, presumably necessary for "Rooker/Austin/etc. to force the move" via spring performance, it would be 45 days termination pay, or $1.18 mil.

And that's only if he's cut in spring training, and never sees a day on the regular season roster. Once opening day hits, the salary is 100% guaranteed.
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Posted 06 December 2018 - 07:11 PM

Carlos Carrasco taking a home town discount to stay with Cleveland.

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#275 Vanimal46

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 03:41 PM

There's a 46.67% chance the Twins at least made a call!

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 03:47 PM

 

There's a 46.67% chance the Twins at least made a call!

Says the Marlins like lefties. Lets get JT for Kepler, Gordon, Gonsalves and Castro.

 

(oh yeah...and Kiriloff)

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 06:37 PM

 

Let's hope he doesn't sign with the White Sox.

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#278 Vanimal46

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 09:55 AM



Seems like this is the narrative of the Offseason. Limited market.

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 10:39 AM

Seems like this is the narrative of the Offseason. Limited market.

I wouldn't extrapolate to the market as a whole. The exec's comment pertained to Machado. He's known to expect a very large contract; front offices like the Twins' probably say to themselves, why even invest the time.

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#280 Vanimal46

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 11:10 AM



Billy Hamilton heading to KC.