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Article: Your Turn: What Do You Want From A Manager?

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#21 Doomtints

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Posted 23 October 2018 - 01:50 PM

1) Know what a tired pitcher looks like.

2) Know how to play matchups.

3) Put the players recently called up from the minors in the lineup and at their natural position.

4) Communicate with players so there are no unnecessary surprises for them, esp. when the front office has a "lapse" in communication.

5) Know the profile for a leadoff hitter.

6) Coach proactively. If the front office has to step in to solve a problem, you lose that player to the minors, a release, or a trade.

 

This feels all like basic stuff that I shouldn't have to mention.

Note that analytics isn't anywhere on this list. If you can't do the basic stuff nothing else matters.

Edited by Doomtints, 23 October 2018 - 01:52 PM.


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Posted 23 October 2018 - 02:04 PM

I don't want a manager who thinks that Brandon McKay can only be a pitcher or 1st baseman but he can't be both at the same time.

This is going to make pickoff throws problematic.

 

 

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Posted 23 October 2018 - 02:06 PM

 

I want a manager who just gets along with ownership and upper management and who is not all wrapped up trivia like wins and losses. I especially want a manager who is concerned about the players' personal lives and their day to day activities off the field and who wants the players to consider him (or her) to be a friend above all. On the field I want a manger who shows no emotion in the dugout and who rarely protests a call or the opposition's antics. The manager should remain stone faced in the dugout and concentrate on the lineup card, not action on the field.

Post game press conferences should always emphasize that the players are trying hard and there is no issue with effort on the field. Losses are simply part of the game and the result of a bad break here or a bad pitch there.

Finally, the manager should consider club house relationships to be far more important than what happens on the field.

I hope the Twins are fortunate enough to find such a manager for 2019 and far into the future as the year 2030 it will all come together.

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#24 Brock Beauchamp

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Posted 23 October 2018 - 02:59 PM

 

I want a manager who just gets along with ownership and upper management and who is not all wrapped up trivia like wins and losses. I especially want a manager who is concerned about the players' personal lives and their day to day activities off the field and who wants the players to consider him (or her) to be a friend above all. On the field I want a manger who shows no emotion in the dugout and who rarely protests a call or the opposition's antics. The manager should remain stone faced in the dugout and concentrate on the lineup card, not action on the field.

Post game press conferences should always emphasize that the players are trying hard and there is no issue with effort on the field. Losses are simply part of the game and the result of a bad break here or a bad pitch there.

Finally, the manager should consider club house relationships to be far more important than what happens on the field.

I hope the Twins are fortunate enough to find such a manager for 2019 and far into the future as the year 2030 it will all come together.

Funny, literally not a single person on this site has argued any of these points in the capacity you're laying them out.

 

Nice strawman!


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Posted 23 October 2018 - 03:54 PM

I want a manager who will post an intro for the game thread with witty informative BS (ala Riverbrian) and is good at math (analytics) but not in the game thread.

Being nice to Seth would be a plus.

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Posted 23 October 2018 - 03:56 PM

I don't want a manager. I want a momager.
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Posted 23 October 2018 - 04:17 PM

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Posted 23 October 2018 - 04:39 PM

There have been some terrific posts in this conversation and I wish I could be the one who comesup with the really smart answer, but the fact is - no one knows the managers' duties any more.It has not been defined.  

 

The most constant reply is leadership - yet, how do we define a leader - it is very different from manager to teammate.I think what we are looking for is a psychologist.Someone to balance the personalities.  

 

Then we have to figure out what all these other coaches are for and what their powers and responsibilities should be. 

 

Yup, the more I think about it, the happier I am that I withdrew my application before they threw it out. 

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Posted 24 October 2018 - 04:56 AM

I want a manager who gets Buxton and Sano to play to their potential. (And who gets Joe Mauer a World Series ring.)
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#30 Doctor Wu

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Posted 24 October 2018 - 06:57 AM

Seth,you wrote:

 

or could you consider a candidate who wasn’t good in his first manager job

 

I'd answer a hearty "yes" to that one. There have been plenty of "good" managers that failed miserably in their first time at the job. Terry Francona comes immediately to mind. He was a bust when he managed the Phillies back in the day, but suddenly turned into a "genius" when he managed the Red Sox and Indians. That aside, I don't think we necessarily need someone with MLB managing experience. Take a chance on one of these new faces and try something different.


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Posted 24 October 2018 - 07:08 AM

 

That aside, I don't think we necessarily need someone with MLB managing experience. Take a chance on one of these new faces and try something different.

 

The last time the Twins hired a manager with experience Gerald Ford was president, so I wouldn't really call this idea taking a chance and trying something new.

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Posted 24 October 2018 - 07:47 AM

You want to truly utilize Analytics?
Then break the mold and utilize a shifting strategy of managers—plural.
You can have one Manager as an Opener, call in another one when you need to make an important Relief Pitcher choice, and so on.  Put the Shift On and send Baldelli to the showers after going through the order once, let the "Wonder Boys" manage remotely for an inning or two, and then bring in Baldelli.  And so on.
If nothing else, it would mess with the minds of whoever watched.

 

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Posted 24 October 2018 - 07:57 AM

World Series victories.

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Posted 24 October 2018 - 08:10 AM

This is going to make pickoff throws problematic.
 
 
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Not if he runs really well.

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Or, come to think of it, throws really slow.
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Posted 24 October 2018 - 08:20 AM

I would like a manager that sends me free box seat tickets whenever I want them.
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Posted 24 October 2018 - 08:51 AM

You want to truly utilize Analytics?
Then break the mold and utilize a shifting strategy of managers—plural.
You can have one Manager as an Opener, call in another one when you need to make an important Relief Pitcher choice, and so on.  Put the Shift On and send Baldelli to the showers after going through the order once, let the "Wonder Boys" manage remotely for an inning or two, and then bring in Baldelli.  And so on.
If nothing else, it would mess with the minds of whoever watched.

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Posted 24 October 2018 - 09:18 AM

The new manager needs to be a developer of young players. Pure and simple.If he understands analytics or not, it doesn't matter because it is 1,000 times more important that he teaches his young players how to play baseball.

 

These managers are rare. As we have seen, most baseball managers would rather pencil in the name Bobby Wilson or Logan Forsythe rather than Willians Astudillo or NickGordon because a 30+ year old veteran isn't going to make bonehead mistakes that a younger guy is going to make.Of course, they probably only have a fraction of the talent but it takes mistakes, and hence losing, to fully develop players.

 

Young players will make fielding blunders;strike out looking in critical situations;run the bases like wildebeast without a clue;throw to the wrong base and/or miss the cut off guy; be inconsistent in the strike zone; make bad pitch decisions. 

 

But, as we know, even players that have been very conservatively moved up the minor league system are still incomplete players.This new manager is going to be coaching, eventually, the next wave of prospects from our system.The way we approached the first group (Sano/Buxton etc) has mostly failed.We cannot fail on the second group (Lewis/Gordon/Kirilloff).

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#38 Mr. Brooks

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Posted 24 October 2018 - 10:44 AM

I want a manager who gets Buxton and Sano to play to their potential. (And who gets Joe Mauer a World Series ring.)


That's going to be pretty tough, unless he's going back in time.
You don't put on an event like they did for Joe, only to bring him back for another season.

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Posted 24 October 2018 - 11:40 AM

 

I want everything Rocco Baldelli offers plus some actual managing experience.

 

Minus that, I'll take Rocco Baldelli.

An extremely highly rated prospect at one time, who did, essentially, nothing in his playing career.If nothing else, he should have some good cautionary tales for Buxton and Sano. :)


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Posted 24 October 2018 - 11:46 AM

Not if he runs really well.

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Or, come to think of it, throws really slow.

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