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#61 Rosterman

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 01:15 PM

$80 million payroll with all of this. Still leaves the Twins with $40-50 million to spend, though.

 

Have to ask...who from this list should be extended beyond...in other words buy them out into the free agent years. That is step #1. (Rosario, Gibson).

 

#2 is, who is still a bargain, fills a hole, and could be flipped during the season> Odorizzi fits that category. Maybe Adrianza.

 

#3...who do we pay a percentage of the salary for a spring training looksee of alternative plan if nothing is done in the off-season (Grossman). 

 

Yes, you look at the list and think "how much would they get from another team, any team, if they were a free agent." Which reflects on the quality of players the Twins currently roster, I guess.

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#62 Mike Sixel

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 03:03 PM

 

I was thinking more of trading some of it to the teams trying to sign them.

 

Ah, got it. 

There's always next year, or the next, or maybe by the time I'm Chief's age, I guess....


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Posted 11 October 2018 - 04:21 PM

$80 million payroll with all of this. Still leaves the Twins with $40-50 million to spend, though.

Is there any source with good inside information on what they will spend? I don't expect $130M. Even $120M is doubtful. I'll guess $105M. I think someone else here was saying below $100M.

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#64 Vanimal46

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 04:26 PM

Lower than last year, no question. They aren't getting a $50 million check from BAMTech in 2019, nor are people lining out the door to sign up for season tickets.

#65 Mr. Brooks

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 04:33 PM

Is there any source with good inside information on what they will spend? I don't expect $130M. Even $120M is doubtful. I'll guess $105M. I think someone else here was saying below $100M.


51% of revenue is pretty well documented, so that's what I'd expect.
Of course, we don't see the books, but I'll predict $103 million.

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Posted 13 October 2018 - 12:48 PM

This is the direction I'm leaning right now as well. If you let Robbie go, you need to replace him with a better bat, and one that's proven it in the majors. If you non-tender Grossman with the objective of letting it ride with internal options, you're taking an unnecessary risk. And to everyone thinking $4 million is a lot of money, you need to remove your glasses that have Pohlad-colored lenses, lol.

Grossman was the Twins' best hitter in the second half, his 128 wRC+ after the break was tied for 33rd among the 165 AL hitters (top 20 percent) with at least 100 PAs and his defense was better than 2017 -- not good, but better. Meanwhile, Cave had a 33.0 K% to go with just a 5.8 BB% and Wade hit .229/.337/.336 over 294 PAs in Triple A.

Bird in hand vs. two in bush.

I’m in the let Grossman go so you can aquire an upgrade over Kepler in right.

Maybe Kepler is your starting CF or 4th OF depending if Buxton can get his poop in a group.

I’ve heard Cutch as an option that I could get behind. Maybe a trade.

If the roster is going to improve, there has to be some change

#67 Mr. Brooks

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Posted 13 October 2018 - 07:01 PM

I’m in the let Grossman go so you can aquire an upgrade over Kepler in right.

Maybe Kepler is your starting CF or 4th OF depending if Buxton can get his poop in a group.

I’ve heard Cutch as an option that I could get behind. Maybe a trade.

If the roster is going to improve, there has to be some change


Mccutcheon and Kepler had identical bWAR this year. How is that an upgrade?
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#68 Sconnie

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Posted 13 October 2018 - 10:22 PM

Mccutcheon and Kepler had identical bWAR this year. How is that an upgrade?

In RF I don’t value fielding as highly as BBRef.

Kepler OPS .727 last year and has career .730. Cutch last year was .792 and career .859.

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Posted Yesterday, 06:32 AM

 

51% of revenue is pretty well documented, so that's what I'd expect.
Of course, we don't see the books, but I'll predict $103 million.

 

If they spend $103 million this year that would be spitting in the face of Twins fans. I can't believe they would pull that kind of horse ****. 


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Posted Yesterday, 07:15 AM

My offseason plan:

(1) Trade a 10-20 level prospect for Justin Smoak - $8 million 1 year option

(2) sign Eduardo Escobar, Asdrubal Cabrera or Marwin Gonzalez to a 2 or 3 year deal at about $10-12 million a year.

(3) Sign Jeurys Familia, David Robertson or Adam Ottavino to a 2 or 3 year deal (Robertson only 2) at about $10-13 million a year.

(4) Trade or non-tender Grossman - + $4million

(5) Sign Corbin, Keuchel, Ryu (4-5 year deal), Charlie Morton (1-2 year deal only) or AJ Happ (1 year deal only) for up to $25 million a year for Corbin, with progressively less for the others.

 

At most that is $54 million added for 2019. I'd also like to see Berrios and Rosario extended.

 

Versus RHP

(1) Polanco (SS)

(2) Rosario (LF)

(3) Smoak (1B)

(4) Sano (3B)

(5) Cave (DH)

(6) Kepler (RF)

(7) Escobar/Cabrera/Gonzalez (2B) 

(8) Castro ©

(9) Buxton (CF)

 

Versus LHP

(1) Polanco (SS)

(2) Rosario (LF)

(3) Sano (3B)

(4) Austin (1B)

(5) Garver (DH/C)

(6) Escobar/Cabrera/Gonzalez (2B)

(7) Astudillo (DH/C)

(8) Kepler (RF)

(9) Buxton (CF)

 

Others on the bench: Adrianza (to start - Gordon would ideally take this spot mid-season if he hits better at AAA)

 

Starters:

(1) Signed FA or Kohl Stewart if FA not signed (obviously prefer to avoid this).

(2) Berrios

(3) Gibson

(4) Odorizzi

(5) Pineda (if healthy) or Romero

 

Relievers:

(1) Signed FA

(2) Rogers

(3) May

(4) Reed 

(5) Hildenberger

(6) Drake

(7) Vasquez 

Edited by nytwinsfan, Yesterday, 07:19 AM.

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#71 Mr. Brooks

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Posted Yesterday, 12:41 PM

If they spend $103 million this year that would be spitting in the face of Twins fans. I can't believe they would pull that kind of horse ****.


That's been their model for as long as they've owned the team. I'm not sure why we'd expect it to change now.

#72 Mike Sixel

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Posted Yesterday, 12:57 PM

 

That's been their model for as long as they've owned the team. I'm not sure why we'd expect it to change now.

 

doesn't mean we have to like the model......but yes, I expect it.

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There's always next year, or the next, or maybe by the time I'm Chief's age, I guess....