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#41 yarnivek1972

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 11:31 AM

Compare Joe Mauer to Sandy Koufax. Both were injured during their prime. Koufax quit after 12 years. His 3 years with Brooklyn, which were mediocre, were before his 9 best years. with LA, which were outstanding. Mauer kept playing after his injuries. Mauer player 5 years of mediorce baseball (10.4 WAR) after his best years.. I contend that Mauer's 10 best years as a catcher were so superior to any other catchers' 10 years (3 batting titles by a catcher- never been done before), that they compare to Koufax's 9 best years as a pitcher in relation to other pitchers. Did Koufax, as dominant as he was, ever do anything that no other pitcher has done before or since? No. I admit Koufax was dominant at his position for 9 years, but so was Joe Mauer for 10 years, in relation to all other catchers in the history of MLB. If Koufax deserves to be in the HOF (and he certainly does), then so does Joe Mauer (and he certainly does).


Koufax won 3 Cy Youngs in 4 years. Keep in mind that was AL and NL combined then. No one else won more than one when it was combined. Koufax won 5 consecutive ERA titles (3 of which were MLB ERA titles) and had six consecutive seasons where his FIP was MLB best. Pretty sure those are unique to him.
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Posted 03 October 2018 - 01:23 PM

 

This. And catcher is not just the most physically demanding position it's also the most mentally demanding position. The fact that he hit the way he did while being outstanding as a catcher is why he was the best baseball player in the world over those ten seasons. And that includes Albert Pujols.

 

I'm not going to disparage Mauer, I think he's a HOFer.

 

But he was nowhere near the player Pujols or Miguel Cabrera were.Pujols hit 400 HRs in that decade.He out-paced Mauer by almost 16 WAR over that time.I think we can appreciate Mauer without too much hyperbole.

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#43 cardsfan

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 11:14 AM

I'm not going to disparage Mauer, I think he's a HOFer.
 
But he was nowhere near the player Pujols or Miguel Cabrera were.Pujols hit 400 HRs in that decade.He out-paced Mauer by almost 16 WAR over that time.I think we can appreciate Mauer without too much hyperbole.


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Posted 04 May 2019 - 11:16 AM

I don't think you trade 10 years of Berra's,Campanella's and Bench's offense for Mauer's.

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 01:20 PM

I don't think you trade 10 years of Berra's,Campanella's and Bench's offense for Mauer's.

What the heck were you looking for when you ran across this old article? :)

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 01:40 PM

If Joe Mauer is/was so great why is it always necessary for someone to revisit and reaffirm that Joe Mauer is so great?


Because of posts like yours.
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Posted 04 May 2019 - 02:41 PM

What the heck were you looking for when you ran across this old article? :)

I think those catcher's 10 years along with Piazza and perhaps Simmons 10 years because of their power-hitting would be ahead of Mauer.

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 03:20 PM

I don’t care much for HOF debates but as far as the Twins. He was big part of every summer I’ve had for the entire length of his career. Minnesota Born and bred and the Twins were the only team he played for. Add in some batting titles and it doesn’t get much more special.

He is one of us and will always be.

#7 should be retired and a statue should also be placed in the plaza.

The statue should capture him taking a strike. 😎
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Posted 04 May 2019 - 03:22 PM

I don’t care much for HOF debates but as far as the Twins. He was big part of every summer I’ve had for the entire length of his career. Minnesota Born and bred and the Twins were the only team he played for. Add in some batting titles and it doesn’t get much more special.

He is one of us and will always be.

#7 should be retired and a statue should also be placed in the plaza.

The statue should capture him taking a strike. 😎

i vote for a statue of him smoothing the dirt in the batter's box with his feet after taking a strike.
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#50 IndianaTwin

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 06:30 PM

What the heck were you looking for when you ran across this old article? :)


I wonder the same, but thanks, CardsFan for doing so. Otherwise I would have missed the incredible video tribute linked back in Comment No. 8. Awesome work, Twins video people.
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