Posted 20 September 2018 - 12:31 PM
He's maintained his value from a WAR perspective every season so far 2-2.5 bWAR. Overall, a solid player.
However, from an offensive standpoint he's been stagnant. No real improvements in BA, OBP or SLG from his first full season until now.
With Kiriloff on the way, is Kepler worth keeping? Would the Twins be better off trading him for help at other positions of need?
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Posted 20 September 2018 - 12:37 PM
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Posted 20 September 2018 - 12:38 PM
Personally, I'd keep him. I think he has enough versatility in the OF, 1B, DH to have value on the team. Kiriloff is no sure thing, not that Kepler is.But I'd keep him around.
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Posted 20 September 2018 - 12:39 PM
Keep. What are you going to get for him? More lottery tickets? A bird in hand is worth 2 in the bush. Crap return I'd rather keep him. Unless you can use him to get major league talent that is controllable. I don't want to move him for minor league turds.
Posted 20 September 2018 - 12:40 PM
I would say keep him unless he's a big piece for a true ace. I'm not sold on Rooker with his strikeout rate, so you could always move Kirilloff to 1B and keep Kepler in RF.
Edited by SF Twins Fan, 20 September 2018 - 12:41 PM.
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Posted 20 September 2018 - 12:44 PM
Posted 20 September 2018 - 12:47 PM
Probably not yet.I'm confident his game will not regress...not a FA until 2023, and we don't have good alternative options for 2019.Maybe after next season?In the meantime, we get another season to see if he can take that next step.
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Posted 20 September 2018 - 12:49 PM
1. Corner OFs are a dime a dozen and historically in Target Field you don't need a player with a ton of range at RF.
2. I'm not sure Kepler's WAR value translates to 1B. As we see with Mauer, you can be one of the best defensive 1B in all of baseball, but if you're a .730 OPS player you're average or below average in the MLB.
Still, with his years of control left and ability to be a good MLB player, he could be valuable in a trade for pitching, or a premium position like SS or CF.
Edited by Vanimal46, 20 September 2018 - 12:52 PM.
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Posted 20 September 2018 - 12:51 PM
Depends on the package, which I know is a total cop out but to me, he's truly a guy that I would like to keep but also wouldn't be heartbroken if he were dealt too, it would depend on what we got back.
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Posted 20 September 2018 - 01:21 PM
Him and Garver and a medium SP for JT.....who says no? I think that's not enough for JT.....throw in one of the lottery ticket types? Still probably not enough.....
Kiriloff, Wade, Rooker, Baddoo, random FA.....all are options next year or the year after......
I doubt his value is HIGH right now, but if you can package him for a legit SS or C that is around for 3+ years, I do that. Lewis or that SS can always move to OF or 3B.......or even 2B......
Edited by Mike Sixel, 20 September 2018 - 01:21 PM.
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Posted 20 September 2018 - 02:02 PM
The focus of this thread has been hitting. Regardless of what he has done at the plate, Kepler is a plus right fielder and even a slightly-plus center fielder (source: baseball-reference.com, "fielding runs above average"). Sooner or later we must face the fact that right now the Twins are a poor fielding team, and there isn't enough hitting or nearly enough pitching to make up for that shortcoming.
I firmly believe that Kepler also has upside in hitting that, combined with his fielding and durability, make him a cornerstone of any future Twins roster.
If Kiriloff brings a plus bat and glove to the majors (not just AAA), great...but in that event why not just use Kepler as a left-side platoon for Buxton in CF and (dare we hope) Rooker at 1B?
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Posted 20 September 2018 - 02:41 PM
I don't think he currently has much trade value, and the Twins could do a hell of a lot worse. Keep him for now.
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Posted 20 September 2018 - 02:42 PM
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Posted 20 September 2018 - 02:51 PM
How about “Jake Cave: Trade or Keep???”
Doesn't matter. PTBNL is all he is worth. Keep or demote to minor leagues is all you have for options with him. You guys want to trade people, you have to bring something of value if you want anything worthwhile back. Otherwise, it is just a exercise in futility.
Edited by Battle ur tail off, 20 September 2018 - 02:52 PM.
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Posted 20 September 2018 - 05:01 PM
Like all palyers you make the trade if it makes the team better long term. Of course, the catch 22 is will the front office recognize what and what won't make the team better?
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Posted 20 September 2018 - 05:05 PM
Of course the Twins should just get rid of him, and let him be a star for another team... like Ortiz and Gomez and Hicks and Garza and Loshe and ....... fill in the others. It's part of the plan to always stock prospects and wait until they almost make it and then do it all again. The endless loop.
Posted 20 September 2018 - 05:07 PM
1. Corner OFs are a dime a dozen ...
Why do you say that?
Gregor Blanco (35), Michael Brantley (32), Melky Cabrera (34), Rajai Davis (38), Daniel Descalso (32), Brett Gardner (35), Craig Gentry, Marwin Gonzalez (30), Jon Jay (33), Cameron Maybin (32), Gerardo Parra (32)
Jose Bautista (38), Lonnie Chisenhall (30), Carlos Gomez (33), Carlos Gonzalez (33), Curtis Granderson (38),
Brandon Guyer (33), Bryce Harper (26), Matt Joyce (34), Nick Markakis (35), Andrew McCutchen (32), Hunter Pence (36)
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