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#21 Tomj14

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 02:15 PM

 

Astudillo seems a lot like the type of player the Twins won games with in the 00s. He would have fit in on those teams.

Didn't those teams do a good job of walking? minus Hunter


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Posted 10 September 2018 - 02:34 PM

Didn't those teams do a good job of walking? minus Hunter


And Jones. And Guzman. And Rivas. And Pierzynski. So yeah, other than 5/9 of the lineup.

Edited by yarnivek1972, 10 September 2018 - 02:36 PM.


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Posted 10 September 2018 - 02:53 PM

I absolutely could see Astudillo as a 25th man type. I don’t think anyone thinks he is some sort of superstar in the making or even an “everyday” utility type. But his versatility is definitely an asset that can’t be ignored.

If the choice is between a 27 year old that can play 4-6 positions and a 36 year old that plays 1 I think the decision is pretty easy.

But that’s me.
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Posted 10 September 2018 - 03:33 PM

If the Twins think he can catch in the majors (in games that count...not just Sept mop-up games)...then I like him to remain on the 40.

 

His career minor league OPS is about 750.He'd never shown much offensive value (beyond what would be considered decent for a catcher)...until he started showing occasional power.And that only started this year.The defensive flexibility is great, but it's not like he's going to be a late-inning defensive replacement anywhere on the field.He'll justify the roster spot with the bat...and that means, he'll have to continue to show the power.

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 04:43 PM

Unless he's out of options, he's the perfect guy to be the 3rd catcher on the 40 man roster. I'd have no problems with him being the backup plan in that sense.


I doubt Astudillo wants to spend another 2 years in the minors, and would like a real opportunity somewhere. If he wants to be a C it's not going to be in Minnesota with Castro returning from injury.

There are plenty of teams that will still be tanking in 2019 that could give him 300-400 PAs. Who knows, maybe the Twins will be one of those tanking teams!
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Posted 10 September 2018 - 04:53 PM

 

I doubt Astudillo wants to spend another 2 years in the minors, and would like a real opportunity somewhere. If he wants to be a C it's not going to be in Minnesota with Castro returning from injury.

There are plenty of teams that will still be tanking in 2019 that could give him 300-400 PAs. Who knows, maybe the Twins will be one of those tanking teams!

Astudillo doesn't really have a choice in this particular matter. 

 

Let's hope we aren't one of those tanking teams personally. 

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 04:55 PM

REJECT the false "three true outcomes". There is only one true outcome and that is CONTACT. HAIL ASTUDILLO

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 05:00 PM

I doubt Astudillo wants to spend another 2 years in the minors, and would like a real opportunity somewhere. If he wants to be a C it's not going to be in Minnesota with Castro returning from injury.

There are plenty of teams that will still be tanking in 2019 that could give him 300-400 PAs. Who knows, maybe the Twins will be one of those tanking teams!


I doubt any player in the minors wants to be in the minors.
He's still under team control for quite some time. It's not his decision.
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Posted 10 September 2018 - 05:12 PM

I think the Twins will keep him on the 40-man because he'll be gone on the first pick in rule 5 (assuming he's eligible). I doubt he'd be the 25th player if Castro and Garver are healthy next spring but he's too valuable to jettison.


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Posted 10 September 2018 - 05:29 PM

Use them options. 

 

Stash in Rochester. Call him up when needed. 

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#31 Mr. Brooks

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 05:35 PM

I think the Twins will keep him on the 40-man because he'll be gone on the first pick in rule 5 (assuming he's eligible). I doubt he'd be the 25th player if Castro and Garver are healthy next spring but he's too valuable to jettison.


He wouldn't go to Rule V. We would have to send him through waivers in order for him to theoretically be eligible for Rule V, and waiver claims are less restrictive than Rule V pickups, so anyone who wants him would just claim him rather than select him in Rule V.

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 08:24 PM

He seems like a nice bench option next year.Versatility is a very nice aspect to his game.

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 08:19 AM

The clip of him running last night is probably a top 5 moment from this season in my book

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 08:24 AM

The clip of him running last night is probably a top 5 moment from this season in my book

Astudillo scoring from first on a double. "The most exciting two minutes in sports," as they say.

 

As a catcher, I do NOT block the plate against that runner, if the ball comes to me. "The tally is yours, good sir!" :)

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 08:30 AM

Nice bench option. Can also catch. Play lots of positions. Could be the Face of the Franchise?

 

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 08:57 AM

 

He seems like a nice bench option next year.Versatility is a very nice aspect to his game.

 

So, with a runner on 3rd and less than 2 outs, if he comes to the plate should a free pass be a given for the opposing team? You know he's not going to strike out and he's not going to unintentionally take a walk so there's next to no point in trying to pitch around him.

 

On the other hand, he's not at all an intimidating hitter. 


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Posted 13 September 2018 - 09:05 AM

So, with a runner on 3rd and less than 2 outs, if he comes to the plate should a free pass be a given for the opposing team? You know he's not going to strike out and he's not going to unintentionally take a walk so there's next to no point in trying to pitch around him.

 

On the other hand, he's not at all an intimidating hitter. 

Steady diet of low pitches that can't reasonably be lofted to the outfield, in that scenario, and dare him to walk.

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 09:22 AM

 

I absolutely could see Astudillo as a 25th man type. I don’t think anyone thinks he is some sort of superstar in the making or even an “everyday” utility type. But his versatility is definitely an asset that can’t be ignored.

If the choice is between a 27 year old that can play 4-6 positions and a 36 year old that plays 1 I think the decision is pretty easy.

But that’s me.

 

I would think that the fact that the 36 year old back up catcher is a .170 hitter should also have something to do with it.

 

Think about it, they could have called up Astidullio a long time ago, even before his first call up, in place of Bobby Wilson. With WIlson we knew EXACTLY what we were getting, and if the FO did not know then they should be fired.

 

Instead of giving Wilson 47 games and 151 plate appearances (all to hit with an OPS of .523) why not give Willians those games and see what you got? Add the 17 games he has appeared in, and maybe give him some time at other positions, he could have had 65-85 games to demonstrate what he could do.

 

Why not?I get the "defense", but frankly I think the thinking about "pitch framing" and "game calling" are very overrated.Have the pitching coach call the game if you need to.Instead, this Front Office seems fixated on adding 35+ year old weak hitting catchers to the roster.They might as well let the pitchers bat.ANd even if Astudillo is worse, who cares.Losing a handful of games because we have him catching instead of Bobby WIlson or Chris GIminez would be worth finding out if the guy could be that catching Cesar Tovar who can adequately play several positions in a pinch and isn't a complete pushover at the plate. In the end, losing 87 games (the pace we are on now) or 90 games, or even 95 games really is meaningless.

 

Further, I think on a losing team having a character like Willians might at least make the team worth watching a bit.  

 

I'll say another thing,It would be different plugging in a "defensive" catcher in a lineup that had lots of good hitters in the lineup.But the 2018 Twins did not have that luxury. Our lineup was weak, and adding such a poor hitter, even in the place of Mitch Garver, just took it to another level weaker.

 

 

Edited by mlhouse, 13 September 2018 - 09:24 AM.

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 09:30 AM

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 09:47 AM

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