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#1 Tom Froemming

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 09:19 PM

Welp, everybody’s been saying Mitch Garver isn’t playing enough, be careful what you wish for. Garver made his first appearance on the mound tonight in the ninth inning of a 10-0 game. And you know what? He was the only Twins pitcher who didn’t surrender a run. Chris Gimenez, eat your heart out.Snapshot (chart via FanGraphs)
Kyle Gibson: 23 Game Score, 5.0 IP, 7 H, 6 R, 4 ER, 3 K, 3 BB, 52.6% strikes
WPA of 0.1 or higher: None
WPA of -0.1 or lower: Gibson -.238
Download attachment: WinChart86.png
There were other, non-Mitch Garver pitching things that happened in tonight’s game, but I fear that if I go into much detail it may be deemed cruel and unusual.

Here are the Twins’ hits: Jake Cave single, Logan Forsythe single, Jorge Polanco double and … nope, that’s it.

Kyle Gibson had a rare rough night and Matt Belisle had his usual rough night. Gibson surrendered seven hits and Cleveland scored six runs, four earned over his five innings. Belisle gave up four more runs over his two innings.

That puts Belisle up to 20 earned runs in 19 ⅔ innings with the Twins this season. Just for reference, that’s the same number of earned runs Taylor Rogers has allowed in 44 ⅔ innings this season.

Belisle also needed a season-high 48 pitches to get through those two innings. The Twins will need to make a move tomorrow when they activate Matt Magill from paternity leave ...

Postgame With Garver

Bullpen Usage
Here’s a quick look at the number of pitches thrown by the bullpen over the past five days:
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AL Central Standings
CLE 62-49
MIN 52-59 (-10)
DET 47-65 (-15.5)
CHW 41-70 (-21)
KC 34-77 (-28)

Next Three Game
Tue at CLE, 6:10 pm CT: Adalberto Mejia vs. Carlos Carrasco
Wed at CLE, 6:10 pm CT: Jake Odorizzi vs. Mike Clevinger
Thu at CLE, 12:10 pm CT: Jose Berrios vs. Corey Kluber

Last Three Games
MIN 6, KC 5: Cave Slugs Grand Slam as Twins Sweep Royals
MIN 8, KC 2: New Twins Ace Wins in Front of Old Twins Ace
MIN 6, KC 4: Long Day at the Office

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 09:21 PM

Hey we got three hits! So...hey three hits!
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Posted 06 August 2018 - 09:26 PM

Activate Magill, DFA Belisle. This better be what happens tomorrow.

 

Also, Bauer simply looks dominant and the Indian hitters are good when they need to be. I don't know if Cleveland's going to be able to take down Houston in the playoffs (if that's how the seeding plays out), but they should be able to give him a difficult time. Even with the guys we traded away, Cleveland's easily better.


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Posted 06 August 2018 - 09:31 PM

At least we can all agree now that Matt Belisle needs to be released. Garver did better. 

 

Speaking of Garver (and other position players that want to pitch an inning in a blowout), I would recommend the two-seamer grip to make those slow 60 mph floaters drift a bit more. The slow timing and movement can be almost like a knuckler. 

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 09:43 PM

Go get em, Mejia!
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Posted 06 August 2018 - 09:52 PM

We need a new metric with a more positive spin for Belisle....

 

How about DPAR (Draft Position Above Replacement)

 

If we ride Belisle the rest of the season he could be worth a DPAR of 3 if things break right!!!!!

 

Now THAT is advanced metrics!

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 09:54 PM

Any mire wasted opportunity on Beslisle are just that wasted. He has overstayed his value and welcome like a bad house guest.

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 09:59 PM

If Belisle is on the roster tomorrow, someone should be fired. 

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 10:01 PM

If Belisle is on the roster tomorrow, someone should be fired.


What if that someone is... Belisle himself?

The Paradox of Matty B!
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Posted 06 August 2018 - 10:02 PM

 

What if that someone is... Belisle himself?

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If they need his veteran presence that bad, he can be the #3 bullpen assistant. 

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 10:45 PM

What will happen first, Belisle's ERA with the Twins goes over 10 or he gets released? 

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 10:48 PM

It would have been funny to see Garver in thepitch count section.
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Posted 07 August 2018 - 12:02 AM

So Lance Lynn shuts out the White Sox for 7+ innings with only one walk and 9Ks. Go figure.

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 02:52 AM

 

So Lance Lynn shuts out the White Sox for 7+ innings with only one walk and 9Ks. Go figure.

 

I don't think Lynn wanted to be here. He started so awful, and was a laughing stock of the rotation. He couldn't wait to get a new start.

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 03:12 AM

Lynn has a 3.39 ERA over his last 15 games.
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Posted 07 August 2018 - 03:25 AM

Last week it didn’t work winning the first game of the Cleveland series, so why not try losing the first game instead?
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Posted 07 August 2018 - 05:44 AM

I don't think Lynn wanted to be here. He started so awful, and was a laughing stock of the rotation. He couldn't wait to get a new start.


Lynn's two appearances with NY:
11.2 IP
7 Hits
0 Runs
1 BB
14 Ks
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Posted 07 August 2018 - 05:59 AM

 

I don't think Lynn wanted to be here. He started so awful, and was a laughing stock of the rotation. He couldn't wait to get a new start.

 

It's gonna be a new Baseball grouping to add to the sophomore slumpers and the contract year sudden superstars. 

 

The "late to spring training club".:)

 

 

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 05:59 AM

Such impatience with our minor leaguers and beyond belief patience with Belisle.What is going on?Explain these new metrics to an old guy who has the perception that giving up a run an inning is not good.What am I missing?Hey Falvey and Levine - you owe us an explanation!

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 06:19 AM

Turned it on and the Twins were down 2-0 in the 1st. The next inning, Rosario struck out on a pitch over his head, and I pretty much thought "yeah, these guys aren't coming back". This game didn't look appealing from a Twins fan perspective from the get-go.

 

The FO is just grinding the fans down with this Belisle stuff. Just keep rolling him out there until we finally don't care enough to complain.

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