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#21 KirbyDome89

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Posted 31 July 2018 - 09:20 PM

I'd prefer the Twins don't bring him back because I'd like to actually enjoy watching the end of games...

 

If you can convince me he won't be used as a closer then maybe I can stomach the team picking up his option; maybe....

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Posted 31 July 2018 - 09:47 PM

Nobody wants Rodney.

 

Can you imagine a GM bringing in a 41-year old at the deadline to close games and having him blow up in your face --- as only Rodney can?

 

And, Rodney won't go for set-up at this point, why would he?

 

So, match is made:Twins and Rodney, nothing but love arrows.

 

Till death do we part.


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Posted 01 August 2018 - 05:22 AM

Nobody wants Rodney.

Can you imagine a GM bringing in a 41-year old at the deadline to close games and having him blow up in your face --- as only Rodney can?

And, Rodney won't go for set-up at this point, why would he?

So, match is made: Twins and Rodney, nothing but love arrows.

Till death do we part.


How would he have a choice? What is he going to do if he is callled upon in the 7th or 8th? Refuse to go in the game? That would be a breach of his contract.

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 07:07 AM

His option for next year is dirt cheap. The Twins will pick up the option if he can still play.

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 07:23 AM

And, Rodney won't go for set-up at this point, why would he?

So, match is made: Twins and Rodney, nothing but love arrows.

Till death do we part.


Care to provide ANY evidence to corroborate that statement? Or did you just throw it out there to justify some sort of anger you have at the Twins?
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#26 nicksaviking

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 08:01 AM

 

Nobody wants Rodney.

 

Can you imagine a GM bringing in a 41-year old at the deadline to close games and having him blow up in your face --- as only Rodney can?

 

And, Rodney won't go for set-up at this point, why would he?

 

So, match is made:Twins and Rodney, nothing but love arrows.

 

Till death do we part.

 

Rodney is a time bomb, but I've seen nothing to indicate he's a me-first kind of guy, quite the opposite, seems like the young bullpen guys like him. I'd guess the reason he's always a closer is because that's the perception of him around the league for over a decade now.

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 08:18 AM

I'd say, pick up the option.Let Rodney continue to pick up the save totals.I don't care who gets the save.Every closer blows a few each year.

 

Then, save those better bullpen arms and bring them in high leverage situations when you really need your best arm out there and the game is actually on the line.  

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 08:28 AM

Additional cost to keep him is 4 million. That is an amount they can easily write off if he isn’t effective.

That is an amount they can easily apply toward a better relief option, instead. I haven't looked at who will be available, but there will be someone.

 

Rodney might be cost-effective by some metric, but there's something worthwhile about being simply effective without the qualifying term, too. Not to mention, being reliable.

 

He's an admirable guy. He seems to be completely unflappable. I still don't want him. I didn't want him when they signed him. I lost some faith in the FO when they did.

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 08:44 AM

The 11th worst team in the majors, picking up the contract of a 42 year old (he will be 3/18/19) pitcher that leads the league in blown saves, yea can't see anything going wrong with that.

 

I will add that last night should be the last time Belisle ever pitches for the Twins again with Slegers,Littell,Duffey, Curtiss,Busenitz sitting in AAA.

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 08:51 AM

 

How would he have a choice? What is he going to do if he is callled upon in the 7th or 8th? Refuse to go in the game? That would be a breach of his contract.

 

No, he just retires.

 

Crissakes, he's going to be 42 next year.He doesn't have to pitch anymore if he starts moving down the relief food chain.


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Posted 01 August 2018 - 09:31 AM

 

That is an amount they can easily apply toward a better relief option, instead. I haven't looked at who will be available, but there will be someone.

 

Rodney might be cost-effective by some metric, but there's something worthwhile about being simply effective without the qualifying term, too. Not to mention, being reliable.

That's fair. Plus the opportunity cost of the guaranteed roster spot -- yeah, you can move on from Rodney mid-season and not be out much money, but there's not necessarily going to be a good alternative available at that time. You've got to be open to, and perhaps seeking, a better alternative in the offseason.

Edited by spycake, 01 August 2018 - 09:32 AM.

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#32 amjgt

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 10:42 AM

 

That is an amount they can easily apply toward a better relief option, instead. I haven't looked at who will be available, but there will be someone.

 

Rodney might be cost-effective by some metric, but there's something worthwhile about being simply effective without the qualifying term, too. Not to mention, being reliable.

 

He's an admirable guy. He seems to be completely unflappable. I still don't want him. I didn't want him when they signed him. I lost some faith in the FO when they did.

 

Rodney is on pace to be about 0.5WAR.

 

At $8M per WAR, it sounds like $4M is just about perfect. 

 

:)

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 10:58 AM

Rodney is on pace to be about 0.5WAR.

At $8M per WAR, it sounds like $4M is just about perfect.

:)


Probably want more than .5 WAR from your closer. Probably like 1.5 or 2.
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Posted 02 August 2018 - 01:30 PM

Rodney is on pace to be about 0.5WAR.
 
At $8M per WAR, it sounds like $4M is just about perfect. 
 
:)

Very efficient. Now what you need is 99 more half-WAR players like him on your roster, and you have your pennant. All at the low, low price of $400M.

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 03:16 PM

 

Very efficient. All you need is 99 more half-WAR players like him on your roster, and you have your pennant. All at the low, low price of $400M.

 

Well, we just picked up 15 guys in trades that look like half-WAR guys. They are all 500k for their first few years.

 

Well on our way!

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 03:32 PM

 

The real reason Rodney wasn't traded today: he is grandfathered under the old trading deadline of June 15.

(Might explain why we "had" to acquire Belisle before that date too?)

A similar grandfathering provision helps explain why Bartolo Colon is still allowed to pitch underhand from a box 45 feet away from home plate.

It also explains why Rodney gets a ride in from the bullpen.

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 04:34 PM

It also explains why Rodney gets a ride in from the bullpen.

He has too much pride to use his walker. Chief can relate.

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 04:49 PM

Up to Hildenberger or Curtiss or somebody to step up and wrestle it from his hands. 

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 04:53 PM

 

He has too much pride to use his walker. Chief can relate.

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Back in my day they knew how to bring in the closer from the pen.

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 08:23 PM

 

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Back in my day they knew how to bring in the closer from the pen.

The pen is where they kept the tigers, chief.

 

Man, you've really lost it with old age.

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