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Article: 2018 Twins Midseason Top Prospect List: 16-20

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#21 Dman

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 12:28 PM

 

In the third round ... out of high school. And Mookie Betts was drafted in the fifth round, does that mean DaShawn Keirsey Jr. is going to be better then him?

 

C'mon man, I answered your question. Do you really view Jeffers as a typical second-round pick?

 

Yeah I have never seen analysts at such a loss for words when the Twins picked Jeffers in the second round.To be honest I expected him to sign for half the slot amount.So I agree, I don't see Jeffers as your typical 2nd round pick. 

 

After complaining about the pick I do like his bat.I know Elizabethton stats mean nothing as Max Murphy exploded there and flamed out in AA but with an OBP of nearly 500 I think Jeffers will do OK as he moves up. High A ball will tell the tale.If he hits there I believe he will make it.

 

Still between Jeffers and Larnach the Wonder Twins saved 1M in bonus pool money.I guess I don't know why they had to pay Sands and Kiersey so much over slot unless maybe they had deals in place for them?They did manage to nab a decent amount of high school guys with the savings I am just not sure they have as high of upside as you would like to see for those kinds of picks.


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Posted 10 July 2018 - 01:16 PM

Questions Why is the FSL so tough on power hitters? If one had to guess, roughly where might Urbina land in the Top 40? In a dated article, MLB ranked him the third best international prospect.
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#23 Seth Stohs

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 01:18 PM

 

Jeffers too low, Diaz way too high.

 

You have to at least be impressed that I was the low-man on the Diaz ranking, right? 

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 01:27 PM

 

Most said it was a reach and maybe he was picked to help sign the HS'ers picked later in the top 10.

 

While I understand that the Twins drafted Jeffers, in part, because they had a pre-selection deal to save $500K... the other part of drafting him that high is because they likely value him higher than a third round pick too. In other words, they aren't just going to draft a guy in the 2nd round that they don't think has a chance to be a quality MLB player. While they understood where many of the online scouting systems didn't' have him as high, they could use that as a way to save the money, but they also obviously really wanted him in the organization. 

 

Then using the system to sign 4-5 other Top 10 picks just makes a ton of sense. 

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 01:29 PM

 

Questions Why is the FSL so tough on power hitters? If one had to guess, roughly where might Urbina land in the Top 40? In a dated article, MLB ranked him the third best international prospect.

 

For me, he''d be somewhere in the 15-20 range probably. But, he'd' be the kind of guy that could jump into the top 10 in a hurry once he starts playing. 

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 01:37 PM

 

For anyone wondering, these rankings were compiled prior to the official announcement that the Twins had singed 16-year-old Venezuelan Misael Urbina to a $2.75 million bonus, so he is not included in the rankings.

 

He can't be a supplemental pick? ;)


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Posted 10 July 2018 - 01:41 PM

 

I really like this group.And will repeat Thrylos' comment that this system just might be loaded.

 

Maybe. But these farm teams are losing a lot more than they have been for being so loaded. Sure, it is about development, but real good players and systems win at all levels.


#28 Mike Sixel

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 02:12 PM

 

You have to at least be impressed that I was the low-man on the Diaz ranking, right? 

 

You and I have talked about him from the beginning! So yes, I was. Thanks, as always, for your awesome work, sir.

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#29 Mike Sixel

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 02:14 PM

As a reminder, the FGs guys like Jeffers a lot more than some others did, and had him 77th overall. They also had Sands 78th overall. If FG is right, using those picks that way was impressive.

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 02:23 PM

 

Questions Why is the FSL so tough on power hitters? 

 

Bigger ballparks with taller walls due to the fact that most host MLB Spring Training.Comparing to the other A+ league, California League, the offense is very oppressed 

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#31 Danchat

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 08:17 PM

Well, it's probably good nobody took Diaz in the Rule 5 draft, huh? Don't think he would have looked very good in the majors.


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 07:31 AM

 

Maybe. But these farm teams are losing a lot more than they have been for being so loaded. Sure, it is about development, but real good players and systems win at all levels.

But several of these teams, Cedar Rapids for example, are very young.Expect that is one of the reasons for the records.And most are right around .500.

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#33 Mike Sixel

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 10:52 AM

 

Well, it's probably good nobody took Diaz in the Rule 5 draft, huh? Don't think he would have looked very good in the majors.

 

It still amazes me some people were worried about this.....

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#34 Thrylos

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 07:12 PM

 

In the third round ... out of high school. And Mookie Betts was drafted in the fifth round, does that mean DaShawn Keirsey Jr. is going to be better then him?

 

C'mon man, I answered your question. Do you really view Jeffers as a typical second-round pick?

 

I have no idea what a "typical second round pick" is.Really.Nothing typical about the draft.Each player is unique.

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#35 Tom Froemming

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 07:44 PM

 

I have no idea what a "typical second round pick" is.Really.Nothing typical about the draft.Each player is unique.

I asked because you said "If your recent second round draft pick is 18th in your system, your system is either crazy loaded, or he is underrated, or he is a bad pick." So it sounded like you were trying to say that typically a recent second-round pick should expected to be ranked higher than 18th.

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#36 Thrylos

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 08:01 PM

 

I asked because you said "If your recent second round draft pick is 18th in your system, your system is either crazy loaded, or he is underrated, or he is a bad pick." So it sounded like you were trying to say that typically a recent second-round pick should expected to be ranked higher than 18th.

 

Yes :)

 

And this system is kinda loaded and this draft was not.I think that the Twins have a whole bunch of what one would call "solid" prospects (where "solid" = more than what Travis Harrison ever was), but it is a bit thin on the top.I have been doing my mid-season top 60 this week after all the signings are done andI'd venture to say that other than maybe 4-5 players, it is hard to find players beyond that "solid" layer.They all have certain flaws.Which, of course, they may overcome at some point.But that "solid" layer is very thick (maybe even to 20-30 deep) for the Twins.

 

 

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