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#21 ashburyjohn

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 07:32 PM

Machadi does fit better

If that's the plural of Machado, then yes please, I'll take two!

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 08:08 PM

If we somehow manage to convince Manny to come to MN, and Sano moves to 1st, where does that leave Brent Rooker? He’s in AA right now, and is a good shot of being a Sept call up and next year’s starting 1st baseman.

Hopefully this means a Sano for Realmuto deal is still possible. Although probably not.

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 09:32 PM

 

that extra 7.5MM from the Hughes trade of a draft pick will be pocketed. zero doubt.

Eh, I think there's a good chance it will be used for the Twins payroll. Especially if they are going to slash payroll by $25M like some have claimed on another thread, they're going to need that money.


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Posted 06 July 2018 - 09:24 AM

Eh, I think there's a good chance it will be used for the Twins payroll. Especially if they are going to slash payroll by $25M like some have claimed on another thread, they're going to need that money.


Slashing payroll is pocketing the money.... They won't lose money next year if the payroll is the same, they'll just make less. That was exactly my point. Payroll is going to drop, a lot, I'd guess.
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Posted 17 July 2018 - 11:02 AM

Per Bob Nightengale, Machado is on his way to the Dodgers tomorrow.
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Posted 17 July 2018 - 11:14 AM

Meanwhile people think Harper is a cheater and an awful person for having a kick-ass HR Derby.

 

The hell baseball fans?


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Posted 17 July 2018 - 11:14 AM

 

Per Bob Nightengale, Machado is on his way to the Dodgers tomorrow.

Well, shoot, there goes my fantasy of Red Sox fans melting down when Machado and Harper wind up in New York. :)

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Posted 17 July 2018 - 11:19 AM

Well, shoot, there goes my fantasy of Red Sox fans melting down when Machado and Harper wind up in New York. :)


I was rooting for Milwaukee to get Machado... Oh well. The rich get richer
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Posted 17 July 2018 - 11:29 AM

Here's hoping Forsythe is included in the package for Machado...only increases the chance of Doze to the Dodgers Part Dos


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Posted 17 July 2018 - 01:44 PM

Here's hoping Forsythe is included in the package for Machado...only increases the chance of Doze to the Dodgers Part Dos


Nah, Forsythe would only be included to balance out the cash a bit (luxury tax purposes?). The Dodgers don't need to add 2 infielders, they already have Taylor, Turner, and breakout Muncy.

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Posted 17 July 2018 - 02:03 PM

Nah, Forsythe would only be included to balance out the cash a bit (luxury tax purposes?). The Dodgers don't need to add 2 infielders, they already have Taylor, Turner, and breakout Muncy.


We'll see if Muncy is just a flash in the pan but their infield could be potentially amazing if they resign Machado...

Muncy/Bellinger 1B
Turner (?) 2B
Seager SS
Machado 3B

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Posted 17 July 2018 - 02:22 PM

We'll see if Muncy is just a flash in the pan but their infield could be potentially amazing if they resign Machado...

Muncy/Bellinger 1B
Turner (?) 2B
Seager SS
Machado 3B

Taylor isn't chopped liver as a fill-in for Seager either -- 2.7 bWAR already in 2018, after 4.8 last year.

I don't know what Muncy's defense is like, but he's been filling in at 3B and 2B too.

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Posted 17 July 2018 - 02:54 PM

In the parallel universe where it could actually happen, I'll take Harper.I think his 'on' years will continue to be bigger than Machado's 'on' years.If Machado was an above-average SS...and could be expected to stick there for another 3-4 years...I'd probably go the other way.

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Posted 17 July 2018 - 06:47 PM

Machado to the Dodgers makes me so sad on so many levels.
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Posted 17 July 2018 - 10:36 PM

Sounds like 5 prospects are going to the Orioles so the Dodgers can get Machado... will the Dodgers have enough money to offer him a big deal at the end of the year? It sounds like a big risk to get just 2.5 months of Machado for those prospects... depending on their caliber.


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Posted 17 July 2018 - 10:47 PM

Sounds like 5 prospects are going to the Orioles so the Dodgers can get Machado... will the Dodgers have enough money to offer him a big deal at the end of the year? It sounds like a big risk to get just 2.5 months of Machado for those prospects... depending on their caliber.

will be interesting to see who the prospects are and if any of them would have looked good in a Dozier trade (which we'll never know)

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Posted 17 July 2018 - 11:14 PM

 

will be interesting to see who the prospects are and if any of them would have looked good in a Dozier trade (which we'll never know)

 

Only name leaked so far is Yusniel Diaz

 

 


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Posted 18 July 2018 - 04:57 AM

Only name leaked so far is Yusniel Diaz


In addition to Diaz, MLBTR has added Dustin May and Errol Robinson. Diaz and May were both FV 45 guys on Fangraphs preseason list, ranked 11th and 9th in the Dodgers system, Robinson unranked:

https://www.fangraph...ngeles-dodgers/

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Posted 18 July 2018 - 07:10 AM

 

Meanwhile people think Harper is a cheater and an awful person for having a kick-ass HR Derby.

 

The hell baseball fans?

 

Growing up whenever the Cubs failed at something (which was always) people did the old, "Aw shucks, those lovable losers did it to themselves again!" bit.

 

But it seems since they lost the Steve (HE DID NOTHING WRONG!) Bartman game, anything that goes wrong for the Cubs is somebody else's fault. Had Cleveland won the 2016 WS I swear there would have been congressional hearings looking into how there was a conspiracy against the Cubs.

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Posted 18 July 2018 - 07:20 AM

 

In addition to Diaz, MLBTR has added Dustin May and Errol Robinson. Diaz and May were both FV 45 guys on Fangraphs preseason list, ranked 11th and 9th in the Dodgers system, Robinson unranked:

https://www.fangraph...ngeles-dodgers/

 

I'd guess both Diaz and May would be ranked higher now. Assuming Buehler has graduated their performances probably put them top five.