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#1 tvagle

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Posted 03 July 2018 - 12:47 PM

The Larnach

 

Should we be concerned with the lack of chatter on the Twins closing the deal with Trevor Larnach? With the holiday tomorrow and the deadline to sign being the 6th??

 

The way this season is progressing I can't help but wonder if this will be another Twins 1st round pick that won't sign

 

For those born in the 90's Belcher was drafted 1-1 in '83 and didn't sign with the Twins, neither did Varitek (1-21 in '93) or Travis Lee (1-2 in'96), in all 6 1st rounders have failed to sign with the Twins since 1965

 

Here's hoping Derek and the doMinions are exhausting all avenues for intervention this season and take heed of some sage advice from the good Doctor...

 

“But now," says the TwinsDailler, "now that you're here, the word of the Lorax seems perfectly clear. UNLESS someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not.”

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#2 tvagle

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Posted 03 July 2018 - 01:05 PM

Quick math from the TD Draft Pick Signing Page shows this

 

Twin's Bonus Pool: $5,930,000

 

Signed player total: $3,705,700

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Bonus $$$ Left: $2,224,300

 

Slot Value for Larnach: $3,120,000

Larnach discount$895,700

 

Here's hoping there wasn't any change in thinking after the College World Series performance

 

Fallback option could be to throw that money at the 30th round selection :)

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Posted 03 July 2018 - 01:16 PM

I don't know - looks like a box of wheaties to me!

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Posted 03 July 2018 - 01:56 PM

Quick math from the TD Draft Pick Signing Page shows this

Twin's Bonus Pool: $5,930,000

Signed player total: $3,705,700
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Bonus $$$ Left: $2,224,300

Slot Value for Larnach: $3,120,000
Larnach discount $895,700

Here's hoping there wasn't any change in thinking after the College World Series performance

Fallback option could be to throw that money at the 30th round selection :)


We can go over the pool by 5% without any future draft penalties too (we just have to pay a tax on it). So that could potentially mean $296,500 more.
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Posted 03 July 2018 - 01:58 PM

I don't think Larnach would do any better as a college senior next year (and would probably do much worse).

Maybe they are haggling with another late pick, so they don't know exactly how much they can give Larnach.

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Posted 03 July 2018 - 03:31 PM

They couldn’t sign him until the college World Series was over. That’s what the delay was.

And, btw, this thread is being moved to the Minor League forum. That’s where threads on Larnach and draft signees needs to go.

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Posted 03 July 2018 - 03:46 PM

They couldn’t sign him until the college World Series was over. That’s what the delay was.

And, btw, this thread is being moved to the Minor League forum. That’s where threads on Larnach and draft signees needs to go.


Couldn't sign, but free to negotiate, I think.
The WS has been over for a few days, we're closer to the deadline than we are the WS, and still no deal, I assume that is where the concern lies.
If it was just the formality of waiting until the WS was over, I assume he'd have signed right away. That makes me think they're still haggling.
Not freaking out yet, but a touch concerned.
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Posted 03 July 2018 - 04:13 PM

Couldn't sign, but free to negotiate, I think.
The WS has been over for a few days, we're closer to the deadline than we are the WS, and still no deal, I assume that is where the concern lies.
If it was just the formality of waiting until the WS was over, I assume he'd have signed right away. That makes me think they're still haggling.
Not freaking out yet, but a touch concerned.


In the Draft Signing Tracker article under Larnach’s name it says: “Signed For: Bonus is agreed to, amount not yet known.”

To me that implies that a deal is there just not finalized. But I don’t know what and where the hold up is. I don’t even know when the time to be concerned is. <shrug> Maybe Seth or Andrew can shed some light on this for us?

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Posted 03 July 2018 - 04:22 PM

Then there’s this from Berardino, which seems to imply that signing Larnach is a formality but I wonder how certain signing Mack is. Guess we’ll know by Friday.

https://www.twinciti...rld-series-run/
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#10 tvagle

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Posted 03 July 2018 - 04:22 PM

 

In the Draft Signing Tracker article under Larnach’s name it says: “Signed For: Bonus is agreed to, amount not yet known.”

To me that implies that a deal is there just not finalized. But I don’t know what and where the hold up is. I don’t even know when the time to be concerned is. <shrug> Maybe Seth or Andrew can shed some light on this for us?

Concern that prompted the post is that that info was from prior to the CWS...wouldn't be the first time a young man (or his representation) had a change of heart or pocketbook

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#11 Carole Keller

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Posted 03 July 2018 - 04:25 PM

Concern that prompted the post is that that info was from prior to the CWS...wouldn't be the first time a young man (or his representation) had a change of heart or pocketbook


Sure. And I’m not trying to make light of anyone’s concern because it’s difficult when we don’t hear anything. The link I posted above was from a few days ago. Still doesn’t give the finality we want, but it does make it seem like signing Larnach is more or less a formality. We’ll just have to wait and see ... on pins and needles. :)

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Posted 03 July 2018 - 04:30 PM

IIRC just after he was selected it was announced some place that he already has a deal with the Twins that will be announced after the College World Series.Not concerned at all.

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Posted 03 July 2018 - 10:05 PM

Here's an update from MLB Pipeline

 

I agree that all things point to a done deal...and that they'd like to still fit Mack in as well...and...and it's still not done

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Posted 04 July 2018 - 12:05 AM

i hope these young draftees realize it's better to work for an organization that needs lots of help. 


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Posted 04 July 2018 - 06:03 AM

i hope these young draftees realize it's better to work for an organization that needs lots of help.

You want him to go to Baltimore? :)
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Posted 05 July 2018 - 02:55 PM

Larnach is signed. $2.25 mil.

http://www.startribu...nach/487432771/

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 03:11 PM

<EDIT using correct rules this time>

 

Just the start of good things to come :)

 

Updated Math

 

Twin's Bonus Pool: $5,930,000

 

Signed player total: $2,183,700

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Bonus $$$ Left: $3,746,300

 

Larnach: $2,550,000 (according to Star Trib article)

 

Balance $1,196,300 Available for Mack and Sands unless they sign Halverson for anything more than $125,000

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