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Article: Twins Minor League Report (6/23): Quality Starts And Kirilloff Keeps Raking

alex kirilloff nick gordon blayne enlow jordan balazovic jean carlos arias
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#21 D.C Twins

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Posted 24 June 2018 - 12:22 PM

I say again, Romero being sent down is simply rediculous. This team is not going to the WS. Let him figure things out in the MLB. 


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Posted 24 June 2018 - 12:23 PM

It is so ridiculous, it required an different spelling of ridiculous:)


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Posted 24 June 2018 - 04:56 PM

 

Romero has thrown 51.1 MLB innings - 1.1 innings over the threshold. So I assume he will not be on prospect lists in 2019, even if he doesn’t throw another MLB inning this year.

 

But apparently, you can stay on the prospect list here on TD indefinitely....... like Garver..... wait! There is no longer a #15! Perhaps you can finally not be a prospect on this list!

 

Buxton?

 

Exactly. Did the full game yesterday with a homer and 2 Ks call for a rest? Is he OK?


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Posted 24 June 2018 - 06:21 PM

 

Nearly every org would do the same thing. Young pitchers often go from the majors to AAA multiple times. The ones that come and stick are the exceptions.

 

While you certainly can, why?Keep Romero up at the MLB level and let him work on his game there.We have no reason to send him down.PUT HIM ON THE MOUND.HAND HIM THE BALL.And let him pitch.If his ERA is 8 who cares.No matter how people want to pretend, this is a terrible baseball team that needs to rebuild.  

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Posted 24 June 2018 - 06:33 PM

Respectfully disagree.

 

Still very young, without a lot of upper level minors time, and nearing a realistic innings limit, you put him in AAA, give him things to work on and pitch him one day a week with a strict limit on pitch count.

 

He's an asset, he will be in the rotation next year, the best place to prep for that is AAA, under supervision and limits.

 

100%.Do not abuse this guy.

 

Berrios, recall, has his rough moments and was also sent down and limited and fenced and everything else.

 

You measure this by results.Baby Romero for the future.

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Posted 24 June 2018 - 07:30 PM

 

While you certainly can, why?Keep Romero up at the MLB level and let him work on his game there.We have no reason to send him down.PUT HIM ON THE MOUND.HAND HIM THE BALL.And let him pitch.If his ERA is 8 who cares.No matter how people want to pretend, this is a terrible baseball team that needs to rebuild.  

Several reasons you don't want to do that. The first is that the FO probably hasn't quite given up on this season so sending a guy with a 7.50+ ERA for the last month is telling fans they don't care about the season. Secondly, Romero could use some confidence. Getting beat up regularly in the majors isn't good for anyone. It creates self-doubt and forces him to overpitch. Let him relax. He'll be up again. And, as others have noted, he'll be on an innings limit this year so a bit of rest right now won't hurt him.

 

Lastly, the Twins have other guys in AAA or on assignments that also deserve chances to pitch in the majors. Mejia made 21 starts for the a playoff team last year and is posting a sub 3.00 era in AAA right now (and has been even hotter over the last month). Keeping him in the minors while someone else is struggling as bad as Romero is right now probably sends a worse message to AAA ballplayers.

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Posted 24 June 2018 - 07:59 PM

 

Several reasons you don't want to do that. The first is that the FO probably hasn't quite given up on this season so sending a guy with a 7.50+ ERA for the last month is telling fans they don't care about the season. Secondly, Romero could use some confidence. Getting beat up regularly in the majors isn't good for anyone. It creates self-doubt and forces him to overpitch. Let him relax. He'll be up again. And, as others have noted, he'll be on an innings limit this year so a bit of rest right now won't hurt him.

 

Lastly, the Twins have other guys in AAA or on assignments that also deserve chances to pitch in the majors. Mejia made 21 starts for the a playoff team last year and is posting a sub 3.00 era in AAA right now (and has been even hotter over the last month). Keeping him in the minors while someone else is struggling as bad as Romero is right now probably sends a worse message to AAA ballplayers.

 

Yeah, this loving FO puts guys like Taylor Motter, Matt Belisle and Bobby WIlson in the lineup. I am sure they can find the next 29 year old waiver wire washout from another team to plug into the lineup so this team can "compete" and keep fan interest. 

 

Regardless, I totally disagree with the approach.Sending him back to the minors to dominate some more does him zero good.The management has to be willing to work with young players and their flaws.Frank Viola, with a lot less minor league experience than Romero pitched his rookie half season with over a 5 ERA, then the Twins trotted him out for 210 innings in his second MLB season with a 5.49 ERA.  

 

IF you have to limit his innings, limit his innings.But he just isnt going to learn anything more in the minors.Let him take his lumps.WOrk it out of his system.And in the end he will be the pitcher he will be.But, the Twins managemnet just isn;t willing to do this.  

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Posted 25 June 2018 - 08:58 AM

 

Yeah, this loving FO puts guys like Taylor Motter, Matt Belisle and Bobby WIlson in the lineup. I am sure they can find the next 29 year old waiver wire washout from another team to plug into the lineup so this team can "compete" and keep fan interest. 

 

Regardless, I totally disagree with the approach.Sending him back to the minors to dominate some more does him zero good.The management has to be willing to work with young players and their flaws.Frank Viola, with a lot less minor league experience than Romero pitched his rookie half season with over a 5 ERA, then the Twins trotted him out for 210 innings in his second MLB season with a 5.49 ERA.  

 

IF you have to limit his innings, limit his innings.But he just isnt going to learn anything more in the minors.Let him take his lumps.WOrk it out of his system.And in the end he will be the pitcher he will be.But, the Twins managemnet just isn;t willing to do this.  

 

It depends on what he does when he goes back to AAA. One of the reasons he's scrabbling right now is MLB hitters are figuring him out a little now that there's enough innings to have a book on him, and he needs to understand that he can't just gas it out and expect to overwhelm guys. He's got to refine his command and control, and dropping back to AAA is a perfectly reasonable place to do it.

 

Meija deserves a shot again as well and has been excellent in AAA. Remember they did this with Berrios and things seem to have worked out just fine there. Just because a guy doesn't have anything more to prove against AAA competition doesn't mean they can't use the opportunity to figure out things they need to do to have success in MLB.

 

More good news on Kirilloff, hope he continues to rake in high A. I don't understand the thought that the Twins are somehow the wrong team to develop him; his development looks to be right on track and going very well. The only hiccup he's had so far is a significant injury that had really nothing to do with the Twins, and he's rebounded about as well as any human could ask for. Just because Buxton has struggled to hit consistently in MLB doesn't mean they're somehow incapable of handling Kirilloff, who has an advanced approach at the plate and an excellent hit tool.

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Posted 25 June 2018 - 10:54 AM

Callis later updated his tweet to point out that he has “agreed to terms” and not yet signed. But, that will happen.

Waiting for Larnach to sign? (Speculation was he would sign below slot, but he's still playing in the CWS.)




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