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#21 jud6312

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 01:03 PM

After round 23 they're up to 4 power hitting college catchers ... I think we've found their type.

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#22 NapoleonComplex

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 01:17 PM

Raw power definitely seems to be the draft theme this year.


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Posted 06 June 2018 - 02:00 PM

 

I really like the Michael Helman pick. Leads Texas A&M in nearly every offensive category. According to his bio, clear athletic talent running through the family.

The last 2B from A&M I remember the Twins drafting worked out pretty well (for a while.)

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#24 jud6312

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 02:04 PM

Up to 6 catchers now. Is it just me or does that number seem a bit high given there's 10+ rounds remaining?


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Posted 06 June 2018 - 02:16 PM

Expec

 

Up to 6 catchers now. Is it just me or does that number seem a bit high given there's 10+ rounds remaining?

Expect they are trying to find one good one out of lots of 'em.  

 

Wondering if Gabe Snyder is any relation to Duke?Wouldn't getting someone with that talent in the mid-rounds be a great find?

 


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Posted 06 June 2018 - 02:20 PM

Expec

Expect they are trying to find one good one out of lots of 'em.

Wondering if Gabe Snyder is any relation to Duke? Wouldn't getting someone with that talent in the mid-rounds be a great find?


Not sure they can play them all.... But agree there is a numbers game here

There's always next year, or the next, or maybe by the time I'm Chief's age, I guess....


#27 NapoleonComplex

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 02:37 PM

 

The last 2B from A&M I remember the Twins drafting worked out pretty well (for a while.)

 

We can only hope Helman's post-baseball life is much less eventful.

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 02:45 PM

8 of the Twins 10 picks in the 20s are college seniors. Like the dip into division 2 with Blank.
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Posted 06 June 2018 - 03:08 PM

Kody Funderburk- Plus, plus name. 
 
Intriguing two-way player out of Dallas Baptist. Interesting they took him as a pitcher- stats say he has some control issues. But solid triple slash with some power as a hitter: http://www.thebaseba...e.asp?ID=211989


not a terribly popular last name. Wonder if he's related to Mark Funderburk
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Posted 06 June 2018 - 05:01 PM

Not sure they can play them all.... But agree there is a numbers game here


Here is *a* way they could play them all. Six levels of minors x 2 catchers per level. Plus, at least one will quickly "demonstrate" that they cannot stick behind the plate.

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 05:03 PM

not a terribly popular last name. Wonder if he's related to Mark Funderburk


There was a Funderburke with an "e" who played basketball at Ohio State...

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 06:00 PM

Pretty uneventful draft, really. Larnach could be something special but the rest of these guys are pretty 'eh'. I was afraid this draft would be like the 2015 one and that's what it looks like. I wish they had reached for higher end talent that was available.

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 07:06 PM

 

Pretty uneventful draft, really. Larnach could be something special but the rest of these guys are pretty 'eh'. I was afraid this draft would be like the 2015 one and that's what it looks like. I wish they had reached for higher end talent that was available.

Losing that second round pick hurt.If they had that pick they don't have to waste it on the catcher to try and save money instead they could have invested in some higher ceiling High school talent there.I hope saving the money was worth it. 

 

Maybe they can get something done on the trade market because I don't see them having much of a pool for international signings either.Looks like a down year for talent acquisition.Maybe next year will be better.


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Posted 06 June 2018 - 07:19 PM

 

Pretty uneventful draft, really. Larnach could be something special but the rest of these guys are pretty 'eh'. I was afraid this draft would be like the 2015 one and that's what it looks like. I wish they had reached for higher end talent that was available.

 

There may be a diamond or two in the rough. 


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Posted 06 June 2018 - 08:26 PM

We won't know anything for years, of course. Its the same in any draft year. The draft does feel rather "meh" to me. I think losing/trading 2 picks and picking 20th helps lead to that.

What I DID like was the number of catchers drafted. Sometimes you just need enough darts thrown at the board to see what hits. Falvey did comment during the game tonight they really like Jeffers behind the plate.

The other thing I liked is there seemed to be some sleepers here, especially on the mound. There seems to be a number of guys who spent last season coming off injury and could have decent ceilings 100%, and a few guys who were transitioning to positions, or as a SP in college, who might be better back in the pen.
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Posted 06 June 2018 - 08:49 PM

The thing I find interesting about some of these catchers is the possibility they may be useful even if they don't stick behind the plate. Most amateur catchers either have to stay at the position or find a new profession.

 

The Twins scooped up a bunch of guys who can hit and also just so happen to also be catchers. It's an interesting strategy, though obviously all of these guys face crazy long odds of making it.

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 09:11 PM

Some intriguing names picked by the Twins.Day 3 has historically been a bit of a crapshot for them though. 

Going back the last 10 years, I could only find 5 guys they have drafted that on day 3 (rounds 11+) that have made it up to the Twins. 

 

Trevor Hildenberger - 2014 - Round 22
Zack Granite - 2013 - Round 14
Taylor Rogers - 2012 -Round 11
Ryan O'Rourke - 2010 - Round 13
Michael Tonkin - 2008 - Round 30

 

Am I missing anyone?  


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Posted 07 June 2018 - 06:39 AM

Andrew, Thanks for putting all the information together on the draft picks.I know I really appreciate knowing a little background on the players we drafted. 

 

Every year I hope they all make it but I know typically only one or two or maybe three will make it and sometimes no one will.Here's hoping these guys find a way to be better than the rest.

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Posted 07 June 2018 - 08:31 AM

 

Some intriguing names picked by the Twins.Day 3 has historically been a bit of a crapshot for them though. 

Going back the last 10 years, I could only find 5 guys they have drafted that on day 3 (rounds 11+) that have made it up to the Twins. 

 

Trevor Hildenberger - 2014 - Round 22
Zack Granite - 2013 - Round 14
Taylor Rogers - 2012 -Round 11
Ryan O'Rourke - 2010 - Round 13
Michael Tonkin - 2008 - Round 30

 

Am I missing anyone?  

 

How could you forget A.J Achter?The diamond in the rough they drafted in the 46th round of the 2010 draft.He gave us 18 'strong' games across 2 seasons.:-)

 

Your point still stands.But I do think its a crapshoot for almost all teams.And you also have to weigh quality of ML contributors vs. quantity.  

 

1 small example would be the Yankees...they had more players drafted(+11 rounds) who contributed in the majors, but only had 1(David Phelps) who had a WAR above 1.6.Whereas Twins had 2 (Hildenburger- 1.6 & Rogers- 1.8). 

 

For comparison sake, I long think of STL as having one of best player development systems and they only had 6 players with a +1.6 WAR over that same span...but managed to pull some higher quality from their 6(Carpenter-22, Rosenthal-5.8, Adams-6.1 Siegrist- 4.4, etc.)

 

The Twins haven't found that diamond in the rough that can cover for a bad 1st round or 2nd round pick in a draft year.  

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Posted 07 June 2018 - 09:33 AM

How could you forget A.J Achter?The diamond in the rough they drafted in the 46th round of the 2010 draft.He gave us 18 'strong' games across 2 seasons.:-)
 
Your point still stands.But I do think its a crapshoot for almost all teams.And you also have to weigh quality of ML contributors vs. quantity.  
 
1 small example would be the Yankees...they had more players drafted(+11 rounds) who contributed in the majors, but only had 1(David Phelps) who had a WAR above 1.6.Whereas Twins had 2 (Hildenburger- 1.6 & Rogers- 1.8). 
 
For comparison sake, I long think of STL as having one of best player development systems and they only had 6 players with a +1.6 WAR over that same span...but managed to pull some higher quality from their 6(Carpenter-22, Rosenthal-5.8, Adams-6.1 Siegrist- 4.4, etc.)
 
The Twins haven't found that diamond in the rough that can cover for a bad 1st round or 2nd round pick in a draft year.


St. Louis has the all time best day 3 pick... some guy named Pujols that was drafted in the 13th round.
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