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#1 taune

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 09:18 AM

I thought it would be fun to put the top 10 Twins prospects currently. I will do an official top 50 next week, but I thought it would be fun to see what everyone else thinks. If you want you can put your own top 10's and see how we differ.

1. Miguel Sano- Had a monster year at the plate needs to cut down on the strikeouts and if he is going to remain at 3rd base he needs to shore that part up as well as he had over 40 errors at 3rd.

2. Byron Buxton- After getting off to a rough start in Pro Ball he is really raking now and showing the speed and ability that made him the number two pick in the draft.

3. Aaron Hicks- After some struggles in previous years it appears that Aaron Hicks has figured it out. A term that is used in basketball is perfect for him as he is a stat stuffer. Hicks had over 30 steals, 20 doubles, 10 triples, 10 hrs and 90 runs scored. Very likely Twins fans will see him roaming the outfield in Target Field sometime in 2013.

4. Oswaldo Arcia- Arcia is another guy that has put it all together after struggling at Fort Myers in 2011 after his monster start in Beloit. He is likely going to be the Twins minor league hitter of the year after hitting 15hr and 91 rbi's between Fort Myers and New Britain with an OPS over .900. The best comp I see from him is Jason Kubel with a little less power, but I think all Twins fans would take that.

5. Eddie Rosario- Rosario would have been right in the discussion for Twins minor league hitter of the year if he hadn't missed about a month with an injury. He is hitting over .300 with 12hr and 70 rbi's with another 20+ doubles. His play at 2nd base has been hit and miss with 17 errors on the year. It is still to be determined if he is going to be a 2nd baseman or a centerfielder, but his bat will make sure he is in the lineup one of those places every day.

6. Kyle Gibson- Gibson was the feel good story of the year coming back from Tommy John Surgery in July of 2011. The fact that he got all the way up to AAA this year was a testament to the hard work Kyle put in to get back and he should be commended for that. To add to that he picked up 1 or 2 ticks on his fastball which is really good as now he sits 92-93 instead of 90-91. Gibson will be given a few weeks off now and then head to instructionals and then to Spring Training where he will be given an opportunity to make the Twins rotation in 2013.

7. Jose Berrios- Berrios was taken with a supp pick this year for the Twins and he has dominated. In 11 games as a professional including 4 starts Berrios has gone 3-0 with a 1.17era. In 30.2 innings he has given up just 4 runs on just 15 hits. However, the stat that just blows my mind is he has only walked four guys while striking out a whopping 49 batters. He did that at just 18 years old. The sky is the limit for this kid he has by far the most upside in the organization and it will be interesting to see what the Twins do with him in 2013 whether they send him to Beloit or if they send him to extended and see what happens.

8. Max Kepler- Kepler has put together in 2012 his best year of his professional career even though we sometimes forget he is only 19 years old being that it is his 3rd year already. After taking his first two years to get used to America Kepler put up really good numbers in 2012. Kepler hit .297 with 10hr and 49rbi along with 16 doubles and 5 triples for an OPS of .925. The sky is the limit for Kepler who will head up to Beloit for his first year in fullseason ball in 2013.

9. Travis Harrison- Harrison has had a good, but not great rookie campaign for E-Town, but it is also important to keep in mind he is just 19 years old. Harrison hit for good average hitting over .300 in his first year with five homeruns and 27 rbi's along with 12 doubles and 4 triples for a OPS of .845. Those are very good numbers for your first professional year, but I was a little disappointed he did not hit for more power because he is a big powerful kid who will hit for power. The key is to be patient with him as the power will come. The bigger question is what is his postion really going to be as he committed 24 errors at 3rd base. If he wants to remain at 3rd he is going to have to improve that defense. I think he likely will return to E-town for another year, but it would not shock me to see him up in Beloit in 2013.

10. Kennys Vargas- After missing the beginning of the year serving his MLB suspension Vargas came on like wildfire and has skyrocketed up prospect lists. Vargas has the looks of a young David Ortiz and has performed like him since returning. Vargas is hitting .320 with 11hr and 36 rbi's along with 10 doubles and a triple for an OPS of 1.047. Vargas has taken the step from being a guy with talent to being a legit top 10 prospect who has the ability to be a major leaguer someday. He will likely go up to Fort Myers in 2013 to see if he continue to improve.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 09:57 AM

This must be Travis :)

Hard to argue with this, but if you put Buxton and Kepler in this because of potential/tools, you got to put Benson in the mix as well. Yeah he had a nasty season but was mostly hurt.
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Posted 02 September 2012 - 10:18 AM

Joe Benson is at a crossroads in his career. He has all the tools that those other guys have but he just can't stay healthy. I think it is only one maybe two years that he has played a full slate of games. Benson has to find a way to make it to the majors in 2013 for him to fufill his promise as he no longer is young for his level. I still think Benson can be a big contributer for the Twins going forward, but the clock is running out.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 10:24 AM

and yes this is Travis

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 10:35 AM

Really like the list. I am guessing most national scouts will put Buxton ahead of Sano. Saying that I agree Sano should be number one. I would also leave Benson out. He had a terrible year. I hope he can have a good comeback next year. I see him as a good fourth outfielder with all the outfielders we have. All in all it was a good list. After the top 5 it is kinda of a crapshoot. Hopefully we can bring in a few arms with next years draft (and the haul we take in trading Mornie and Span).

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 11:31 AM

I have to say that I'm starting to get excited about our farm system. How much better is that list than what we've been used to in the last 3-4 years?

Call me crazy, but I think all 10 of those guys have star potential.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 12:08 PM

Those bats are exciting. About the only complaint is that only two pitchers are worthy of the top ten. Hopefully another arm or two from the 2012 draft class can find their way onto the list next year.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 12:37 PM

Ive got my top 25 list and the bad thing is how hard it is to make an arguement for many/any starting pitchers in the 2nd 10 also over hitters.
Goin on your list, Benson/Walker/Polanco/Hermann/Roberts/Pinto/Santana etc will be 2nd 10......BJ Hermsen is the only one that is definate for me in the mid teens and we all have argued about his velocity limitations. Guys like Madison Boer & Matt Summers didnt separate themselves in A ball, Top 10 2012 prospect Adrian Salcedo battles arm problems all yr, we know about Alex Wimmers and even ELIZ aces Hudson Boyd/Angel Mata didnt dominate either depsite ok numbers.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 12:39 PM

Those bats are exciting. About the only complaint is that only two pitchers are worthy of the top ten. Hopefully another arm or two from the 2012 draft class can find their way onto the list next year.


8 of 10 on this Top Ten List are/project as, OF/DH types, I would argue that Chris Parmelee makes it 9 of 10 (or 11) as long as Morneau stays a Twin. For the Twins to get out of the mess that they've got themselves in- in the Farm System, as well as with the Big Club- they need to balance this list out with more live arms and one or two MIs.

The Twins have drafted big numbers in the opening rounds for arms in both 2012 (10 of top 14 picks) and 2011 (8 of top 11). Clearly, this isn't offering intermediate-term help, with the exciting exception thus far from Berrios. (although there still may be a Top Ten List chance for Bard (any other I missed?) from 2012, and Wimmers, from the 2010 draft). The Twins are going to have to take the great risks necessary to acquire top-ten pitching talent and MIs by trading some of these top prospects and/or finding someone else young internationally and outbidding MLB competitors (as in the case of Miguel Sano).

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 12:44 PM

Ive got my top 25 list and the bad thing is how hard it is to make an arguement for many/any starting pitchers in the 2nd 10 also over hitters.
Goin on your list, Benson/Walker/Polanco/Hermann/Roberts/Pinto/Santana etc will be 2nd 10......BJ Hermsen is the only one that is definate for me in the mid teens and we all have argued about his velocity limitations. Guys like Madison Boer & Matt Summers didnt separate themselves in A ball, Top 10 2012 prospect Adrian Salcedo battles arm problems all yr, we know about Alex Wimmers and even ELIZ aces Hudson Boyd/Angel Mata didnt dominate either depsite ok numbers.


Could Hermsen and Boyd possibly become Dave Goltz/Rick Reuschel-types? Big guys that eat a lot of innings and battle without necessarily carrying a strike-out pitch.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 01:06 PM

What's the long term plan with the pitchers the Twins drafted this year? Except for Taylor Rogers they've all pitched out of the bullpen. I'd guess the two pitchers from Rice are going to be relievers, but what about Bard, Jones, and the others.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 01:09 PM

Melotakis is going to stay a reliever, Bard is going to start those are the only ones that I know off hand

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 01:09 PM

I don't have a problem with the list. I like Benson but I don't know if he is in the prospect category now. I think if healthy he will have a solid major league career.

As far as other pitchers? I agree there isn't a ton of them in the organization.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 01:10 PM

Oh of course Berrios is going to start

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 01:14 PM

there some intriguing pitchers that wont make any top list yet......Zach/Tyler Jones in BEL are 2 hardthrowing strikeout pitchers who can make some noise next yr

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 01:38 PM

It's interesting to wonder what positions these outfield prospects will play in the majors considering all out prospects. In my opinion Revere should be the LFer becuase of his arm and that LF is bigger than right at Target. I see Arcia as a replacement for Willingham except that he should play RF because his arm is a big stronger than Revere but he isn't as fast. Then you have Hick who is pretty much a lock to be a CFer considering his great arm and great speed. Obviously not all these guys will be stars but I think you have a good, cheap, young outfield within the next year, without even factoring benson or Buxton in (or rosario of 2b doesn't work out).

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 04:47 PM

It will be an interesting year for Sano next year. He has to start to be able to field the ball better and throw with some accuracy. He will also need to cut down on strikeouts and make contact more often.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 05:32 PM

It will be an interesting year for Sano next year. He has to start to be able to field the ball better and throw with some accuracy. He will also need to cut down on strikeouts and make contact more often.


This is one of the weirdest things that has been propagated about him and I do not know where it started...

FACT 1: All power hitters strike out more than non-power hitters (ask Willie)
FACT 2: Sano's BB:K ratio is better than Jim Thome's at the same age

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 06:17 PM

This is one of the weirdest things that has been propagated about him and I do not know where it started...

FACT 1: All power hitters strike out more than non-power hitters (ask Willie)
FACT 2: Sano's BB:K ratio is better than Jim Thome's at the same age

Enough


Fact 2 is just ridiculous.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 08:02 PM

It will be an interesting year for Sano next year. He has to start to be able to field the ball better and throw with some accuracy. He will also need to cut down on strikeouts and make contact more often.


This is one of the weirdest things that has been propagated about him and I do not know where it started...

FACT 1: All power hitters strike out more than non-power hitters (ask Willie)
FACT 2: Sano's BB:K ratio is better than Jim Thome's at the same age

Enough


Jim Thome at age 19 played in rookie ball and A+ Combined had an OPS 1.074 , struck out 44 times had a batting average of .340 and only 27 errors. while playing third. Sano OPS .894 SO 142 BA .235, and 42 errors. When you cal something weird, use a better example than comparing Sano to Thome at the same age. Fact, there are big holes in Sano's game that need to be fixed.