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#1 Monkeypaws

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Posted 22 April 2018 - 02:13 PM

The stadium cycle has pretty much run through MLB. There are your last old gems in Fenway and Wrigley, a couple expansion era gems in Dodger and Kauffman. Meh stadiums in Anaheim and Oakland, and ugly domes in Toronto and Tampa. The rest are The followers of the Camden Yards retro model, except one: Chicago White Sox appropriately named Guaranteed Rate Field.

 

The Braves dumped Turner, which is now the stadium for Georgia Tech.

 

Texas is building Globe Life Field to replace Globe Life Park, which, as new as it still seems to me is actually the 11th oldest park in MLB.

 

I doubt the White Sox get a new stadium anytime soon, so I'd vote Texas, seeing as the balls are rolling.

 

Still seeing that the Raiders are gone, and real-estate in Oakland has gone through the roof, I could see something happening in the East Bay pretty soon.

 

TB gets honorable mention.

 

I guess my real thought was by 2050, how many of these current parks will still be around.

 

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Posted 22 April 2018 - 05:27 PM

You won't get full agreement that Wrigley and Fenway are gems, especially Wrigley. Fenway is interesting for its quirky layout but fortunately a new stadium would never be built with such an odd configuration. I personally can't think of anything truly gem-like about Wrigley.
The two that deserve to be replaced soonest are in St. Petersburg and Oakland, but unfortunately the money doesn't flow in sufficient volume in either location for that to happen soon.

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#3 Mike Sixel

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Posted 22 April 2018 - 05:48 PM

Ok chance Oakland is demolished and they move to Portland or Charlotte or Austin.
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Posted 22 April 2018 - 05:52 PM

Oakland.It's overdue.

 

(And I'd vote to leave up the ivy in Wrigley and tear everything around it down.It's a dump)

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Posted 22 April 2018 - 05:55 PM

Ok chance Oakland is demolished and they move to Portland or Charlotte or Austin.


I'd prefer not Austin. Traffic is already terrible right now.

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Posted 22 April 2018 - 06:00 PM

Concur with Mike and Levi that Oakland will blow up that stadium. Especially so when the Raiders move to Las Vegas.

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Posted 22 April 2018 - 06:42 PM

Ok chance Oakland is demolished and they move to Portland or Charlotte or Austin.


A major league would do well in Charlotte. It's a booming metropolis that's growing at a phenominal rate.

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Posted 22 April 2018 - 07:19 PM

A major league would do well in Charlotte. It's a booming metropolis that's growing at a phenominal rate.


Except that it already has a AAA team, and that area has a lot of minor league teams around.

 
(And I'd vote to leave up the ivy in Wrigley and tear everything around it down.It's a dump)


Concur. Except that I vote to put up some padding on that brick underneath the ivy.
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Posted 22 April 2018 - 08:17 PM

 

A major league would do well in Charlotte. It's a booming metropolis that's growing at a phenominal rate.

 

Wasn't that the impetus behind putting an NHL and NBA team there?And neither are doing much with attendance.Not saying it can't work for baseball, just pointing that out.

 

Also, Oakland's stadium may not need demolition.That sucker might fall down on its own.

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Posted 22 April 2018 - 08:32 PM

Wasn't that the impetus behind putting an NHL and NBA team there?And neither are doing much with attendance.Not saying it can't work for baseball, just pointing that out.
 
Also, Oakland's stadium may not need demolition.That sucker might fall down on its own.

The Carolina Hurricanes actually play in Raleigh, but the point you make is unchanged.
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Posted 23 April 2018 - 07:46 AM

Except that it already has a AAA team

I imagine they could find a way to persuade that team to relocate. :)

 

and that area has a lot of minor league teams around.

True. I'm not sure whether that's an obstacle or an opportunity, though.

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 07:55 AM

Bring a team to Nashville!!
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Posted 23 April 2018 - 08:24 AM

The last I heard, it sounds like Oakland wanted to tear down O.Co. and build a new stadium in the same location.I don't know where they'd play in the mean time though.  

 

But who knows with Oakland.It seems like their stadium plans change regularly.  

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Tampa ended up Montreal, but someone would have to probably build them a stadium there too.  

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 08:35 AM

 

 

 

True. I'm not sure whether that's an obstacle or an opportunity, though.

That area is also very heavily 'Braved.' I'm not sure it's really the right area. I think a MLB team would find it difficult getting a foothold there. But who knows.

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 08:44 AM

There is a wealthy group working hard to get a team here in Portland. There are a lot of fans here, but I think it would struggle.

1. Not many big companies are here, so suite sales will be hard.
2. Western suburban people are afraid of the city, which is ridicoulos.
3. Traffic would be impossible in most any location.
4. It's not a large area.
5. It rains in April, and sometimes May and October. They are taking retractable roof. Yuck.
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Posted 23 April 2018 - 08:55 AM

Is Portland pretty solidly Mariner country too?

 

To me the only places MLB should consider are Montreal and Vegas.But I'd prefer they just leave Oakland where it is and move Tampa to Montreal.

 

At some point I hope the leagues stop thinking they can wedge teams into Florida or other markets where fan loyalty is already largely set.Look for markets hungry for their own identity and will support it.

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 10:03 AM

There's not many 'large cities' left that could create enough demand and support of a relocating team.

Austin, TX was mentioned as a potential destination but I don't see that happening. Texans are locked in to the Rangers and Astros.

I could see Nashville as they continue to grow and more tech companies make that their home.

New Orleans? They support the Saints, maybe there's enough demand for baseball too.

Otherwise they may have to look international... PR, Montreal, Vancouver, Mexico City.

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 10:26 AM

 

Is Portland pretty solidly Mariner country too?

 

To me the only places MLB should consider are Montreal and Vegas.But I'd prefer they just leave Oakland where it is and move Tampa to Montreal.

 

At some point I hope the leagues stop thinking they can wedge teams into Florida or other markets where fan loyalty is already largely set.Look for markets hungry for their own identity and will support it.

 

No, most here feel force fed Seattle teams, and don't really like them all that much. At least the ones I talk to, or read about online.

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 10:59 AM

I don't have any data on this, but it feel to me like almost every stadium built between approximately 1940 and 1990 was replaced between 1990 and now, including some that had pretty quick turnarounds, like the dome that lasted only 30 years.I would expect a sports stadium to last more like 50-75 years.What I'm wondering is when will the Camden-Yards-type stadiums start being replaced.Are they going to last closer to 30 years or closer to 75 years?


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Posted 23 April 2018 - 11:10 AM

I don't have any data on this, but it feel to me like almost every stadium built between approximately 1940 and 1990 was replaced between 1990 and now, including some that had pretty quick turnarounds, like the dome that lasted only 30 years. I would expect a sports stadium to last more like 50-75 years. What I'm wondering is when will the Camden-Yards-type stadiums start being replaced. Are they going to last closer to 30 years or closer to 75 years?


I want to believe beautiful stadiums like Pittsburgh and SF are timeless. I think it all depends how much it costs to fix infrastructure issues.

Most every new sports stadium is wired to handle a large amount of data/cell phone use. That's only going to get more complicated in the future. Did they build Camden Yards to handle technology needs? If not, do they have the room to add that kind of infrastructure?