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Twins vs Mariners, 08-27-2012, 7:10pm

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#1 Brock Beauchamp

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 03:56 PM

[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Twins:
[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Denard Span CF[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Ben Revere RF[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Joe Mauer C[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Josh Willingham DH[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Justin Morneau 1B[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Ryan Doumit LF[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Trevor Plouffe 3B[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Jamey Carroll 2B[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Pedro Florimon SS[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial](Liam Hendriks P)
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Mariners:
Dustin Ackley 2B[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Franklin Gutierrez CF[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Kyle Seager 3B[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Jesus Montero DH[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]John Jaso C[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Justin Smoak 1B[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Eric Thames RF[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Trayvon Robinson LF[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Brendan Ryan SS[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial](Felix Hernandez P)[/FONT][/COLOR]

#2 Brock Beauchamp

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 04:27 PM

Mariners offense, home crowd, Hendriks on the mound... Come on, somebody get the guy a win.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 04:42 PM

This game is a setup, the Twins can't help but win. Everybody will be betting their houses on the Mariners.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 04:51 PM

Good luck to new Terry Felton.

There is no May and Mayer. They're made up.


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Posted 27 August 2012 - 05:05 PM

Vargas is on waivers it's reported on trade rumor. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

If they don't claim him something is really wrong. Good start for next yr.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 05:24 PM

Mariners offense


3rd most road runs scored per game in the league.

fwiw

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 05:38 PM

Vargas is on waivers it's reported on trade rumor. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

If they don't claim him something is really wrong. Good start for next yr.


Great point and given the horrific state of the pitching staff and that the Twins have first pick on these waiver options for AL players, it's perplexing that Vargas- and many other waiver-wire dumps with team control going forward and for costs less than the siging some of the upcoming FAs- haven't been snapped up by the handful.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 05:46 PM

They will pull him back.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 06:00 PM

I highly doubt they're simply "dumping" Vargas.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 06:14 PM

Vargas is on waivers it's reported on trade rumor. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

If they don't claim him something is really wrong. Good start for next yr.


A lot of his ERA is manufactured in Safeco; his road ERA in his four years for the Mariners is above 4.5 and his 2012 hasn't moved that appreciably He'll likely draw $8M in arbitration, then elect free agency after 2013. Still interested?

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 06:15 PM

Nice throw Joe.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 06:19 PM

I highly doubt they're simply "dumping" Vargas.


Except that's what they essentially did in their trade with the Dodgers.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 06:19 PM

Vargas is on waivers it's reported on trade rumor. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

If they don't claim him something is really wrong. Good start for next yr.


A lot of his ERA is manufactured in Safeco; his road ERA in his four years for the Mariners is above 4.5 and his 2012 hasn't moved that appreciably He'll likely draw $8M in arbitration, then elect free agency after 2013. Still interested?


Given the current state of the Twins staff, yes.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 06:35 PM

Even for a yr he'd help you have to start somewhere fixing this rotation. Might cost a prospect but please do something!

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 06:43 PM

I don't see much improvement in stuff or location from Hendriks so far, but he's certainly been luckier at least. I'll take it.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 06:56 PM

Nice throw Joe.


Hey Joe... Where you going with that gun... For... An arm?

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:00 PM

[quote name='jokin'][quote name='ashburyjohn'][quote name='Winston Smith']Vargas is on waivers it's reported on trade rumor. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

If they don't claim him something is really wrong. Good start for next yr.[/QUOTE]

A lot of his ERA is manufactured in Safeco; his road ERA in his four years for the Mariners is above 4.5 and his 2012 hasn't moved that appreciably He'll likely draw $8M in arbitration, then elect free agency after 2013. Still interested?[/QUOTE]

Given the current state of the Twins staff, yes.[/QUOTE]

Me 2... I'm ok with Vargas at 8 Mill.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:01 PM

It's bad luck to talk about a no hitter...

So I'd like to discuss it.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:03 PM

That Mauer single came immediately after my no hitter post... See... You don't talk about no nos.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:03 PM

Except that's what they essentially did in their trade with the Dodgers.


That comp doesn't make any sense. Unless Vargas recently signed a 265M extension I missed.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:18 PM

It's bad luck to talk about a no hitter...

So I'd like to discuss it.


Good one, Brian.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:25 PM

Florimon executes the hit and run. I'm starting to like the kid... I don't care if he ends up hitting .230

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:31 PM

It's bad luck to talk about a no hitter...

So I'd like to discuss it.


Good one, Brian.


It works every time!

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:33 PM

I think some of our farm experts on Twins daily were underselling Florimons defense.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:36 PM

I think some of our farm experts on Twins daily were underselling Florimons defense.


Same kid with 4 errors on one road trip?

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:38 PM

I think some of our farm experts on Twins daily were underselling Florimons defense.


Same kid with 4 errors on one road trip?


Yeah... That kinda blows the bit... Thanks for the cold water.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:50 PM

I think some of our farm experts on Twins daily were underselling Florimons defense.


Same kid with 4 errors on one road trip?


Yeah. But the one error I witnessed in person, it was him seemingly getting flustered by the pitcher not covering first, and he threw essentially to where the pitcher had been instead of where he was heading. D'oh! But that kind of thing seems coachable; the vacuum-cleaner action on a sharp grounder far to his right not so much, he's either got the knack or he doesn't. It is annoying, though, that by age 25 he hasn't gotten the kinks out of his game. He's almost not a "kid" anymore. Who is the middle infield coach at Rochester and up with the Twins?

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:53 PM

Leadoff triple...three ground balls. Ugh.

Followed, of course, by a leadoff HR. Double ugh.

Edited by USAFChief, 27 August 2012 - 07:57 PM.


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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:53 PM

[quote name='ashburyjohn'][quote name='USAFChief'][quote name='Riverbrian']I think some of our farm experts on Twins daily were underselling Florimons defense.[/QUOTE]

Same kid with 4 errors on one road trip?[/QUOTE]

Yeah. But the one error I witnessed in person, it was him seemingly getting flustered by the pitcher not covering first, and he threw essentially to where the pitcher had been instead of where he was heading. D'oh! But that kind of thing seems coachable; the vacuum-cleaner action on a sharp grounder far to his right not so much, he's either got the knack or he doesn't. It is annoying, though, that by age 25 he hasn't gotten the kinks out of his game. He's almost not a "kid" anymore. Who is the middle infield coach at Rochester and up with the Twins?[/QUOTE]

I like Middle infielders who can get the ball to 2nd in a variety of ways. Florimon seems to have that plus range.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:54 PM

Leadoff triple...three ground balls. Ugh.


I'd be upset if King Felix wasn't on the mound.