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Reds Claim Kennys Vargas off Waivers

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#1 Nick Nelson

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 12:34 PM

Via Dustin Morse

 

I was really hoping to see Vargas land someplace he could get 500 AB and show what he's really capable of. Obviously that'll be impossible in Cincy barring a major injury to Joey Votto, so this is disappointing. But at least he's on a major-league roster.

 

Wishing Kennys all the best.

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#2 operation mindcrime

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 12:36 PM

Good luck Kennys! \m/
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#3 slash129

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 12:49 PM

This doesn't make any sense ... I bet he gets DFA'd again within a week. Otherwise, he'll get to DH against the Twins at the end of April. We can use our free hats to catch his HRs.
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Posted 22 March 2018 - 12:53 PM

Kinda surprising to see an NL team pick him up.Hope he does well, hope he finds success in the bigs.

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 01:02 PM

That seems like a good fit. They're in the AL and have a terrible 1B right?

 

Maybe this is the new waiver shenanigan. You claim a guy you know Korea or Japan want then bank the inevitable trade money once you tell him he's going to continue to be in DFA limbo if he chooses to stay.

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#6 Shaitan

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 01:09 PM

Does the waiver wire go by league, AL then NL, in the offseason and sprint training? I'm just curious if this means no AL team was interested first.

 


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Posted 22 March 2018 - 01:19 PM

 

Does the waiver wire go by league, AL then NL, in the offseason and sprint training? I'm just curious if this means no AL team was interested first.

Yes, that's what it means.


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Posted 22 March 2018 - 01:21 PM

From what i understand, it goes by team record first - regardless of league.

 

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 01:21 PM

Expect Votto to win the 1B job for Cincinnati.

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 01:41 PM

From what i understand, it goes by team record first - regardless of league.


Mike Berardino confirms.

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#11 birdwatcher

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 01:48 PM

Vargas: "Howdy. Jest passin' thru. Sayonara. "

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 01:55 PM

Maybe cinci will use him in a trade for something else?

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#13 Tom Froemming

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 02:00 PM

 

Does the waiver wire go by league, AL then NL, in the offseason and sprint training? I'm just curious if this means no AL team was interested first.

I believe this is how waivers work from May through the August waiver trade period. But it sounds like during the offseason through April, waiver order is based on the previous season records, no AL/NL split.

 

Who the hell came up with this stuff?

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 02:16 PM

 

I believe this is how waivers work from May through the August waiver trade period. But it sounds like during the offseason through April, waiver order is based on the previous season records, no AL/NL split.

 

Who the hell came up with this stuff?

 

This is a remnant of the leagues being separate. A player being waived during the season is offered to other teams in the same league (AL vs NL) before being offered up to another league.


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Posted 22 March 2018 - 02:19 PM

The only waiver priority that prioritizes league over record is August trade waivers. Makes sense, because those claims are generally about blocking trades to competitors in your own league.

All other waivers -- outright or release, all year round -- ignore league (except as a tiebreaker for teams with the same record).

https://www.thecubre...xport/html/3525

And until the end of April, last year's standings are used. Starting in May, 2018 standings will be used. But league is still only a tiebreaker, in either case.

Edited by spycake, 22 March 2018 - 02:23 PM.

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 02:52 PM

I wish MLB would make a change so that teams couldn't claim players and then turn around and waive them again within a couple of weeks (which the Vargas situation looks like). A team that claims a player off of waivers should have to keep them on the 40 man roster (or 25 man roster if out of options) for a reasonable length of time. It doesn't seem fair to the player to spend an extended time repeatedly going through the waiver process.

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#17 Tom Froemming

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 03:12 PM

 

The only waiver priority that prioritizes league over record is August trade waivers. Makes sense, because those claims are generally about blocking trades to competitors in your own league.

All other waivers -- outright or release, all year round -- ignore league (except as a tiebreaker for teams with the same record).

https://www.thecubre...xport/html/3525

And until the end of April, last year's standings are used. Starting in May, 2018 standings will be used. But league is still only a tiebreaker, in either case.

Ah, thank you! These things are as difficult to find as they are complicated.


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Posted 22 March 2018 - 03:28 PM

 

Maybe cinci will use him in a trade for something else?

 

I think it's more likely that Cincy has plans on trading Votto... 


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Posted 22 March 2018 - 03:48 PM

 

I think it's more likely that Cincy has plans on trading Votto... 

That might be difficult with his no-trade clause.He's stated many times that he wants to stay in Cincy as well.We'll see though.

 

See ya, Multiple Kenny!I'll miss using that name.

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 03:53 PM

 

I wish MLB would make a change so that teams couldn't claim players and then turn around and waive them again within a couple of weeks (which the Vargas situation looks like). A team that claims a player off of waivers should have to keep them on the 40 man roster (or 25 man roster if out of options) for a reasonable length of time. It doesn't seem fair to the player to spend an extended time repeatedly going through the waiver process.

 

What's the solution though? It's not fair to the player to be stuck on a team that doesn't want them either.




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