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#1 Doctor Wu

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Posted 20 March 2018 - 06:47 AM

Just wondering what everyone was thinking in regards to the bullpen as Spring Training winds down (man, it went fast this year!). Does Kinley have a chance to make the club? Are the jobs of Hildenberger and Duffy still safe? Is there any hope for Phil Hughes? Could Moya make the club going north? Any other potential surprise cuts or additions?

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#2 howieramone2

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Posted 20 March 2018 - 08:44 AM

I don't see Kinley making the team, we've made too many win now moves to carry a rookie. I see Moya as a replacement for Duke at some point in time.

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Posted 20 March 2018 - 09:34 AM

Rodney   
Reed

Duke

Rogers

Hildenberger--whatever he was working on, he stopped.  Should be fine.

Kinley--He's looked serviceable to me.

 

Pressly--I don't think he's ever going to put hot together, but he'll probably go north anyway.

 

Moya--I expect to see a lot of him this year.  

 

Busenitz--fading?

 

and then there is Phil Hughes...

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Posted 20 March 2018 - 09:43 AM

I could see Duffy moving on, if the Twins do not cut bait with Phil Hughes.He is another one who will never put it together, hope he has options left.Also think Pressly is now in danger, many bad outlings and no control of his breaking ball. 

Both still have time, but time is running out.


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Posted 20 March 2018 - 03:44 PM

We should have 4 starters and 8 reliebers going north.

Rodney
Duke
Reed
Hildeburger
Rogers
Hughes

2 of the following 3. Though all 3 could make it but i doubt it.

Duffey
Pressley
Kinley
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#6 Shaitan

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Posted 20 March 2018 - 04:55 PM

Re: Kinley

I think the goal in drafting a "surprise pick" is that you're more likely to be able to trade for them instead of wasting a roster spot.


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Posted 20 March 2018 - 05:14 PM

Re: Kinley
I think the goal in drafting a "surprise pick" is that you're more likely to be able to trade for them instead of wasting a roster spot.


I think it's been 5-6 years since anyone has traded for a Rule 5 pick in that fashion (to remove Rule 5 restrictions and send them to the minors), so I don't think that is generally a goal.

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Posted 20 March 2018 - 11:11 PM

I know it won't be this way but:

 

Rodney

Reed

Duke

Moya

Hildy

Pressley

Duffy

Rodgers or Hughes.

 

Rodgers has not been good since last July and is having an awful Spring. I don't see why he's locked into a spot ahead of Moya. 

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Posted 21 March 2018 - 08:25 AM

I know it won't be this way but:

Rodney
Reed
Duke
Moya
Hildy
Pressley
Duffy
Rodgers or Hughes.

Rodgers has not been good since last July and is having an awful Spring. I don't see why he's locked into a spot ahead of Moya.


Rodgers may be using spring to work on a specific pitch or something which can affect his numbers. I imagine he will be more focused on results this last week before the season.

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Posted 21 March 2018 - 10:15 AM

 

We should have 4 starters and 8 reliebers going north.

Rodney
Duke
Reed
Hildeburger
Rogers
Hughes

2 of the following 3. Though all 3 could make it but i doubt it.

Duffey
Pressley
Kinley

 

I think Duffey is the odd man out right now. He can still be optioned. That's what I think the Twins have planned - not necessarily my opinion. 

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Posted 21 March 2018 - 10:27 AM

Rodney, Reed, Duke, Rogers, Hildenberger, Presley, Kinley.Kinley is a mop up guy b/c they don't want to lose him after essentially sacrificing Chargois, Bard, Burdi, to get him.I wonder if Duffey heads to AAA as a starter or reliever?He has an option left too.Duffey, Busenitz, Curtiss, Moya, etc., give them the ability to shuffle guys to keep fresh arms in the bullpen.

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Posted 21 March 2018 - 10:29 AM

...also, Hughes is a long man/5th starter for April.Too much money owed him to dump him quite yet and I think they'll want younger guys to pitch more regularly.

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Posted 21 March 2018 - 10:29 AM

When Santana comes back, it will be a choice between Duffey or Hughes (or maybe a bench guy).

 

The next 10 days is telling. Hildenberger has been roughed up. Rogers and Duffey aren't inspiring confidence. Dow we want Kinley and Moya both in the bullpen.

 

And the Hughes factor. The three looooong guys are basically bad so far.

 

You hope they take the best group north. 

 

Anhyone know the problem with Busenitz, or has the league caught up to him?

 

Would Bard and Chargois been challengers for this year. Too bad they went elsewhere.

 

 

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Posted 21 March 2018 - 10:29 AM

 

I think Duffey is the odd man out right now. He can still be optioned. That's what I think the Twins have planned - not necessarily my opinion. 

 

I agree. Personally, I think Duffey's effectiveness may have run it's course. He was the weakest link in the bullpen last year yet got the most innings and his much lauded curveball hasn't really been a good pitch for him since his rookie year.

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Posted 21 March 2018 - 10:40 AM

Don't know what is up with Rogers.If he is working on something, that will be considered.If he isn't, I see a chance that Moya makes the team with Rogers going to AAA.

 

I agree with all those above who think if it comes down to Duffey vs. Hughes, Hughes is in and Duffey goes to AAA.I see Hughes lasting until June, at which point they will evaluate how he is doing.Should Trevor May be doing well in his rehab, he could be the one replacing Hughes should they waive him in June.If Hughes is terrible and May isn't ready, it could then be Duffey or one of many others from AAA to replace him.  


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Posted 21 March 2018 - 12:30 PM

The Twins will be bringing up 13 pitchers, remember.


#17 Han Joelo

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Posted 21 March 2018 - 12:39 PM

Last outing, didn't Kinley pitch 2 great innings, and then get shelled when he went out for a third?


#18 Han Joelo

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Posted 21 March 2018 - 12:59 PM

I'll answer my own question:

 

strikeout, groundout, flyout

strikeout, groundout, groundout

homer, walk, double...pulled from game...one more of his runs scores.


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Posted 21 March 2018 - 01:47 PM

I know it won't be this way but:

Rodney
Reed
Duke
Moya
Hildy
Pressley
Duffy
Rodgers or Hughes.

Rodgers has not been good since last July and is having an awful Spring. I don't see why he's locked into a spot ahead of Moya.


Rogers had a handful of terrible outings at the end of July. Perhaps not coincidentally almost the entire team shat the bed that week or so. Other than that, he was pretty good in August and in September. For a guy who still has less than 2 years experience at the MLB level, he’s done exceptionally well IMO.

That said, he is what he is - a lefty specialist. He was sort of thrust into a setup role by default at times last year. He really doesn’t have a pitch to consistently get righties out. That’s why he shifted to the bullpen in the first place. As for Moya, as I recall he actually has had “reverse” splits, even in the minors. He might be a set up guy someday, but he isn’t likely to be a loogy.

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 10:29 AM

The Twins will be bringing up 13 pitchers, remember.

agreed, though they’ve stated 12