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#1 chaderic20

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 08:10 AM

So, Aaron Judge apparently told Manny Machado that he'd "look good in Pinstripes".And this apparently is a no-no according to MLB, claiming it's "tampering".Is it just me, or is that about one of the stupidest things MLB has said/done recently.Do they not think that players are constantly telling each other, "Hey, you should come play for us!"I mean, how often do you hear during the offseason that so-and-so is recruiting so-and-so to their team?Why is it suddenly a big no-no for Judge to say he'd like to play with Machado?And MLB wonders why they're losing their audience...

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 08:41 AM

I think this was just a move to protect themselves.I don't think the MLB really cares that much about this, but it was public and they were covering their a**.

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 08:48 AM

 

I think this was just a move to protect themselves.I don't think the MLB really cares that much about this, but it was public and they were covering their a**.

 

Could be. Peter Angelos has been pretty dead set on keeping Machado away from the Yankees. He doesn't always seem to be a very reasonable man, he probably threw a stink and the commissioner is trying to appease him.

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 08:53 AM

As much as I hate the Yankees, yes, this seems pretty dumb.


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Posted 16 March 2018 - 08:53 AM

It's one thing when you do it to entice a Free Agent. But Machado is not a Free Agent. That's where the tampering comes in.

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 09:00 AM

 

It's one thing when you do it to entice a Free Agent. But Machado is not a Free Agent. That's where the tampering comes in.

 

I don't think anyone would disagree that it may be, just that this stuff is pretty silly and next to impossible to police.

 

I can see where front offices and managers shouldn't be recruiting, but the players probably aren't taking a ton of HR classes to know what they can and can't say. I can't imagine the numerous legal and league violations that have been committed between a 1st baseman and the base-runner standing on first throughout the years.

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 11:43 AM

Do you there know the Yankees would/ could go after both Machado AND Harper? Ugh
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Posted 16 March 2018 - 11:53 AM

 

I don't think anyone would disagree that it may be, just that this stuff is pretty silly and next to impossible to police.

 

I can see where front offices and managers shouldn't be recruiting, but the players probably aren't taking a ton of HR classes to know what they can and can't say. I can't imagine the numerous legal and league violations that have been committed between a 1st baseman and the base-runner standing on first throughout the years.

Great line. So true.

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 11:58 AM

 

Do you there know the Yankees would/ could go after both Machado AND Harper? Ugh

I just don't see Harper going to the Yankees. That clean shaven, keep your mouth shut look and attitude that is expected from the Yankee players gives the feel that they were all stamped out at the same boring factory.

Even Torii Hunter would have annoyed the Yankee FO. I can't see Harper doing that. 

Of course, the biggest stage along with the highest pay could change all that...

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 12:05 PM

 

I just don't see Harper going to the Yankees. That clean shaven, keep your mouth shut look and attitude that is expected from the Yankee players gives the feel that they were all stamped out at the same boring factory.

Even Torii Hunter would have annoyed the Yankee FO. I can't see Harper doing that. 

Of course, the biggest stage along with the highest pay could change all that...

Through the years there have been many players you couldn't imagine that with, and there they go. What's a few hair cuts and clean shaven face over a few years vs the millions he'd make? Yeah, dunno. And, actually, I don't really care about Harper; he can go wherever he wants. But I'd hate, hate, HATE to see Machado as a Yankee. (He's my favorite non-Twin player :) ) But the talk over the last year has pretty much been 'Harper to the Yankees' and the Yankees will 'buy' one of them, because that's what they do. Could they buy two?

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 12:32 PM

Harper's a West Coast guy. I'll go with the Dodgers with Arizona being the dark horse if they can shed some of Zack Greinke's salary.


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Posted 16 March 2018 - 12:38 PM

 

Harper's a West Coast guy. I'll go with the Dodgers with Arizona being the dark horse if they can shed some of Zack Greinke's salary.

He'll go where there's the most money. End of story. At least for Harper.

 

My impossible dream is Machado to the Twins. (Yes, I know ... I did say impossible dream.) I just flat out like everything about the guy and seeing him in pinstripes would just be the ultimate ... oxymoron ... for lack of a better phrase for it.

 

That all said, back to the subject of tampering ... I don't know. It seems far fetched from what was reported, but could it be it was more than a casual comment than what is being reported? Or maybe your explanation is where it's at.

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 12:42 PM

 

So, Aaron Judge apparently told Manny Machado that he'd "look good in Pinstripes".And this apparently is a no-no according to MLB, claiming it's "tampering".Is it just me, or is that about one of the stupidest things MLB has said/done recently.Do they not think that players are constantly telling each other, "Hey, you should come play for us!"I mean, how often do you hear during the offseason that so-and-so is recruiting so-and-so to their team?Why is it suddenly a big no-no for Judge to say he'd like to play with Machado?And MLB wonders why they're losing their audience...

 

In sentiment I agree with you because a comment like that is pretty benign. I'm sure players talk to other players. An off the cuff comment is not buying Machado a car. 

 

However... once he mentions the conversation to reporters who go public with information. The MLB office has no choice because you can bet the contracts have verbiage that expressly state that tampering is not allowed by anyone in the organization... including players. The size of the document needed to cover all shades of tampering would be quite large so they probably have to draw a hard line. I'm pretty sure that Judge will just get a reminder of MLB Rules.  

 

Using Machado as an example... without tampering rules in place. There would be nothing stopping all 29 teams from laying the ground work right now (actually yesterday). Teams could start negotiation with a player under contract right now. It would become a free for all. 

 

 

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 12:46 PM

After reading a couple articles, even the Yankees FO (Cashman) took this seriously and had a brief conversation with Judge about it ... basically saying, "Yeah, don't do that." Judge's comment was that he didn't know and now he does.

 

What was probably said was ... 'Yeah, don't do or admit to that publicly. But go for it otherwise. <wink, wink>'

 

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 12:48 PM

MLB has to do this. If Machado slides easy instead of taking out the Yankees SS on a double play this year, Orioles fans will be upset. The league has to protect the appearance of competition and players know what isn’t right. If not this communication, when should the league do something?
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Posted 16 March 2018 - 01:02 PM

Stupid rule. IMO

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 01:35 PM

Two words:Competitive Balance. 

 

Example:Altuve, Judge, Machado, Scherzer, Syndergaard and Trout were sitting in a bar one day, when Kershaw shows up and says " Hey, you guys should come and play for the Dodgers!Management really throws around the money and the weather is always great!" 

 

Hey, at least give me credit for getting the players names in alphabetical order :)

 

 

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 01:42 PM

I can understand if someone in an opposing front office starts talking to players on another team, but players talking to each other?That seems silly and impossible to police.I'm sure, as others have said, it's all in the legal details, but still, it just seems overboard to go after a player for a comment like that.

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 04:21 PM

 

I can understand if someone in an opposing front office starts talking to players on another team, but players talking to each other?That seems silly and impossible to police.I'm sure, as others have said, it's all in the legal details, but still, it just seems overboard to go after a player for a comment like that.

I don't think they'd go after him had he just said it and went his way, except that he made it known to the media that he thought Machado would be a great addition and told him so. If he had just made his comment to Machado and went on his merry way, it would be what it is, benign. But then don't say so in the media.

 

While yes, I get why it seems foolish, and it is in a way, but it's also not, in a way. Just don't advertise to the press ... that was the stupid part about it.

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 04:46 PM

I can understand if someone in an opposing front office starts talking to players on another team, but players talking to each other?That seems silly and impossible to police.I'm sure, as others have said, it's all in the legal details, but still, it just seems overboard to go after a player for a comment like that.


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