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When do the Twins cut bait with Phil Hughes?

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#1 adorduan

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 02:21 PM

Topic is pretty self explanatory, make your guess.


#2 Sconnie

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 02:49 PM

Topic is pretty self explanatory, make your guess.

if they can 60 day DL him, wouldn’t they keep him through the duration to collect money insurance?
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Posted 03 March 2018 - 02:56 PM

I havent seen any games, but has he looked crappy in ST games so far?

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 02:56 PM

When it is clear his velocity is not going to return to 92-93.
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Posted 03 March 2018 - 02:56 PM

In two years, when his contract is done. They'll keep hoping - as i do - that he can return to his earlier form.

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 03:26 PM

 

I havent seen any games, but has he looked crappy in ST games so far?

I'm assuming he looked pretty bad today. 4 earned in 2.1 innings, and 2 HRs.


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Posted 03 March 2018 - 03:28 PM

I'm guessing he gets cut at the end of spring, and if not, the only way he makes this team is as the long reliever. I think the new regime understands sunk costs.

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 03:31 PM

 

In two years, when his contract is done. They'll keep hoping - as i do - that he can return to his earlier form.

His earlier form being that one outlier of a season he had in 2014?

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 03:33 PM

 

I'm guessing he gets cut at the end of spring, and if not, the only way he makes this team is as the long reliever. I think the new regime understands sunk costs.

If he stays with us, it NEEDS to be as a reliever.He might be able to provided some quality an inning at a time.He's not going to do anything but hurt us if put back into the rotation.

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 04:08 PM

I'm assuming he looked pretty bad today. 4 earned in 2.1 innings, and 2 HRs.


I'm not saying that he looked bad or good, because I haven't seen any footage of his performance today. Generally speaking, though, I think it's ill advised to put much stock in spring training stats. He gave up a few runs, but maybe he was working on some mechanical issue or spotting his breaking ball.

Or maybe he just pitched badly.
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Posted 03 March 2018 - 04:47 PM

I'm not saying that he looked bad or good, because I haven't seen any footage of his performance today. Generally speaking, though, I think it's ill advised to put much stock in spring training stats. He gave up a few runs, but maybe he was working on some mechanical issue or spotting his breaking ball.

Or maybe he just pitched badly.

I listened, there wasn’t anything said to indicate how Hughes was doing, but Provus sounded a bit flat or something, like he could already tell it was going to end up a football score.

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 04:59 PM

That’s probably Jim Pohlad’s call. It’s his money.
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Posted 03 March 2018 - 08:27 PM

 

That’s probably Jim Pohlad’s call. It’s his money.

Yep. My guess is they give him a few April starts and, if that doesn't work, he goes to the DL. I think he should go to the pen but I don't think he will.


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Posted 03 March 2018 - 08:41 PM

Yep. My guess is they give him a few April starts and, if that doesn't work, he goes to the DL. I think he should go to the pen but I don't think he will.


I don't even want the 2-3 April starts. His arm/body has been toast for 3 years...
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Posted 03 March 2018 - 09:36 PM

The Spring stats don't mean a whole lot, 'cause if Hughes should be outed because he pitched poorly today, Duffey basically had the same line (2.2 IP, 5 H; 4 ER) and we should be calling for his release too then.

 

But yeah, Hughes is most likely toast at this point. I hope the FO has the guts to sink that $27M cost when they need somebody to take his roster spot.

 

(Duffey's no lock either. He was pretty bad from 2016-17.)

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 10:00 PM

Yeah, it should be a non-topic at this point. He's coming back from his second TOS surgery. No reason to not see where it goes. At the end of spring training, they can DL him. If needed, they can push him to the 60 Day DL... No need to cut bait until after the season at this point or when a roster spot is needed.

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 10:22 PM

Can they 60 day D/L him if he’s technically healthy though? I assume he can fight it and force his way to free agency. But yeah, I don’t see him bouncing back from a second long shot TOS surgery. It’s too bad but the body isn’t always willing, and there’s nothing wrong with admitting that it isn’t there anymore.
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Posted 03 March 2018 - 10:31 PM

From what I read of the game down here (about 5 - 7) miles from the Blue Jay stadium, Wind was gale force straight from home to center.Bad day for fly ball pitchers.  

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 11:12 PM

I think he makes the team as the 5th starter or a long reliever.I've said that I don't think they need a 5th starter when they break camp.They will need one twice in April due to days off.They may need fewer if there are rain outs.Remember Terry Mulholland?Dude had rubber in the arm and not much left in the tank, but he was the crafty veteran out of the pen that we would put out there when the game was out of hand and we needed innings.That could be Hughes roll.

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Posted 04 March 2018 - 04:10 AM

One bad outing and you are talking about dumping him ?  Thats a pretty quick hook, if u ask me.  We are paying him for the next two years. How about saying that we'd like him to pitch, if at some time he appears as though he will get men out.  If not, he will have about a two-year stay on the DL.  Please don't put him on the Twins mound until he can make a good case for being able to get outs.  :)