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#1 Bark's Lounge

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 06:10 PM

A lot has been said on the site about wanting Gardenhire to be fired because he has lost his edge or worse things, also, a lot has been said about how he should retain his managerial position because the Twins roster is not his fault and the blame should fall on the Front Office.

The scenario is this....

Gardenhire is fired at the conclusion of this season.

Who do you want to get the managerial job and make the difference that Gardenhire could not procure?
(If you are a Gardenhire supporter and want him to stay - give your 2nd choice)

P.S. Please leave Terry Ryan out of this.... that is for a thread you can start. Also, if someone already threw out a similar kind of thread, I apologize, I did not want to dig through the archives.

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 06:20 PM

As of right now, I'd say Dave Martinez...

1.) comes from the Joe Maddon school in Tampa, but he's coached and been very well respected since his playing days.

2.) He had a long and solid, productive career despite rarely being a full-time player. Like Gardy, he understands how difficult this game is and that players make mistakes and errors and such.

3.) I want a first-time manager because I don't like retreads.

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 06:22 PM

Tony LaRussa

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 06:24 PM

Tony LaRussa



That would be interesting... Because it would be the one choice that I think might make me consider not being a Twins fan anymore.

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 06:25 PM

As of right now, I'd say Dave Martinez...

1.) comes from the Joe Maddon school in Tampa, but he's coached and been very well respected since his playing days.

2.) He had a long and solid, productive career despite rarely being a full-time player. Like Gardy, he understands how difficult this game is and that players make mistakes and errors and such.

3.) I want a first-time manager because I don't like retreads.


Excellent choice.....love the way Tampa/Maddon play the game & get the most out of their players.

Not that Gardy wouldnt be picked up right away as he is a respected manager, but even Joe Torre was let go. There comes a time when a change of scenery is needed as players tune out a guy. Gardy has been here 20yrs with 10 as a mgr. I would love a new guy in charge.
IF Gardy stays....his contract is up after nxt yr so he either needs to be extended/let go this offseason IMO...then the changes to the coaching staff for that same change of scenery/new eyes approach

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 06:27 PM

Tony LaRussa



That would be interesting... Because it would be the one choice that I think might make me consider not being a Twins fan anymore.


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Posted 25 August 2012 - 06:30 PM

Tony LaRussa


That would be interesting... Because it would be the one choice that I think might make me consider not being a Twins fan anymore.


Yeah, god knows you wouldn't want the 3rd winningest manager of all time, a guy whose teams have finished 350+ games over .500 and has won three World Series as you favorite team's manager.

But just to throw out another name, how about Ken Macha? Four very good years coaching the A's and a couple of decent years overseeing the Brewers.

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 06:32 PM

LaRussa----may be a prick, but 3 world series appearances in last 8 yrs makes gardy look little league.
Same with 'whats his name'.....take NFC championship over what the purple have now/before

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 06:36 PM

Mike Redmond would be interesting. Not sure good but interesting.

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 06:48 PM

1. Seth - Dave Martinez would be one of the best choices.
2. John - LaRussa, Can't go wrong with that, but I am assuming he is done and not coming back. I agree with Seth in the wanting a manager that is not a retread... but LaRussa would be the exception to the rule.
3. Seth - Why no love for LaRussa?
4. Winston Smith - Your choice is my choice... why? Not too sure, but that is the one I would like to see.

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 06:49 PM

I'm not a LaRussa hater like some of you but I'd prefer someone more youthful than LaRussa.

I'd also like someone from outside the Twins organization and without many ties to people in the organization.

Martinez would work for me but I'm sure that there are others as well -- I'd just like them to think a little creatively instead of going with someone they "know well".

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 07:06 PM

For the ones who do not remember (or were not alive then) :

Tony LaRussa was the manager of the steroid cheat Oakland A's who stole a few AL West titles from the Twins. As a Twins' fan I used to hate everything about those As, including LaRussa, ever before the cheating became apparent.
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Posted 25 August 2012 - 07:13 PM

Gene Glynn, and his coaching staff.

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 07:19 PM

Gene Glynn, and his coaching staff.


+1. As for those who don't want someone from within the organization, Glynn is new to the organization this year. The people in Rochester, such as Jim Mandelaro, speak very highly of Glynn as a manager and person. Huge improvement over Tom Nieto who was hated there. Has a ton of coaching experience with several good organizations.

Have wathced a lot of Rochester games this year and he has a mediocre team playing very well. Also has a local tie as he is originally from Minnesota.

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 07:59 PM

Well, if Mandelaro approves of Glynn... When Glynn was hired, it was known that he was a very good person and wonderful with the media. I don't know if "wonderful with the media" is one of the top criteria I'd be looking for. What I do like about Glynn, however, is his background as an advanced scout, and his ability to watch other players and know if they're ready to help a big league club. That's why I think he's great for Rochester, and who knows, maybe with the Twins. Seems like a perfect bench coach.

And, Glynn fits my "no retreads" criteria!

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 08:04 PM

Gene Glynn - he has done a great job with what he was given in AAA

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 08:05 PM

I became intrigued by Ken Oberkfell as a possible Gardy replacement after reading this article earlier this year:
http://mlb.mlb.com/n...ws_mlb&c_id=mlb

Jose Oquendo is another guy I'd consider.

I don't want any retreads, and I don't want to promote from within. It feels like a certain staleness has set over this organization, and it's time for some fresh ideas and approaches.

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 09:28 PM

I like Redmond, but TLR would be great, just what the team needs.

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 11:54 PM

Scotty Ulger

Case Closed

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 07:03 AM

How realistic would it be fore TR to sit down with Gardy at the end of the season and ask him replace all of his coaching staff? Two consecutive 100 loss (give or take a few) seasons call for some consequences. If faced with the choice of everyone going or Gardy sticking around with an entire new staff, I think he would decide to just end it.

I have always been a big Gardy supporter and would hate to see him leave, but we have all seen that a change is needed at this point. I think Gardy is loyal to a fault and would rather fall on the sword himself than start replacing the guys that have been with him since the beginning.