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#1 Bark's Lounge

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 04:09 PM

Gordon Edes of ESPNBoston.com is reporting via Twitter that The Dodgers and Red Sox are closing in on a blockbuster deal involving A-Gone, Beckett, Crawford, and Our Beloved Nick Punto. WTF? What will Boston get in return? If this happens, it will have to go down as one of the biggest trades in the history of this game... crazy!

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 04:14 PM

Zach Lee would have to be a part of this deal.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 04:22 PM

Um, wow. This would be a genius move by Boston if they can pull it off. Crawford, Gonzalez and Beckett are all awful contracts.

Not sure why the Dodgers want to blow their wad this year, but whatever. I guess it's their money to waste.
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 04:26 PM

Return would depend on how much salary the Red Sox pay. This could be a straight salary dump, but if real, it could include 2 of the top 4 Dodger prospects. Presume Loony would be going back, but he is a goner at the end of the year. Rest would have to be prospects(mainly pitching).
Do not know why the Dodgers would do this deal, but it would close the book on the Twins doing a deal with them

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 04:27 PM

Um, wow. This would be a genius move by Boston if they can pull it off. Crawford, Gonzalez and Beckett are all awful contracts.

Not sure why the Dodgers want to blow their wad this year, but whatever. I guess it's their money to waste.
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If it takes most of the money off the books for Boston it would be a great transaction. I have a hard time believing that will be the case though.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 04:33 PM

If so, that is on less team for Morneau to be traded to in the offseason...

What I just typed is probably an opinion, not a fact. I mean, I'm usually right, so you should maybe assume it is or will be a fact soon, but that's up to you. :)


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Posted 24 August 2012 - 04:42 PM

This would be awesome if it happened, if only for the crazy amount of talk it would generate.

But why are the Dodgers trying to pick up everyone else's bad contracts?

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 05:13 PM

A-Gon scratched from tonights line-up and summoned into the clubhouse along with Punto according to Alex Speier of WEEI.com (via twitter). Somethings going down - but to what extent?

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 05:27 PM

Too bad about this deal, which I can almost literally smell coming, because, if it goes through, removes a potentially serious suitor for Morneau from the market and the Dodgers get rid of Loney.

The Dodgers are willing to do this because their new management group is trying desperately to get players that it knows can help them for the rest of this year and for a long time after that, although the Red Sox are going to get slammed by their media for giving up such impact players unless they get something good in return. This sounds like what Billy Beane calls an effing A trade.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 05:30 PM

From what I have read recently... no Zach Lee involved in the trade. Nice for the Dodgers.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 05:37 PM

This has been a really fun rumor to follow along all day. Totally unexpected and a total game-changer. I wonder if there is concern of the commissioner's office having some problems with the amount of money and PTBNL being tossed about.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 05:41 PM

I hate trades like this. It rewards both teams for being stupid. LA gets a killer team and Boston gets out of signing stupid contracts.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 05:49 PM

6:15pm: The Red Sox and Dodgers are currently reviewing medical records, according to Alex Speier of WEEI.com (via Twitter). The deal would include Rubby De La Rosa, James Loney, Jerry Sands, Ivan De Jesus, and a top prospect, according to Gordon Edes of ESPNBoston.com (Twitter link).

Holy hell, that is a load of ****.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 05:55 PM

I hate trades like this. It rewards both teams for being stupid. LA gets a killer team and Boston gets out of signing stupid contracts.

I guess I feel that neither team is being rewarded, almost the opposite. We don't know the money changing hands yet and neither team looks to come out of this unscathed. Boston is going into full-on rebuild mode* and LA is taking themselves out of the running for the top-flight free agents for at least the next two years, unless the luxury tax isn't an issue for them. It is fun for me to watch this all develop, but I can sit back and be glad my team isn't one of the teams involved.

*I understand the necessity of rebuilding, I was just trying to put myself into the shoes of an average Boston fan; someone who expects playoffs and deep playoff runs every year. If this year's FA class suits Boston's needs well and they decide to go ahead and build a veteran team through FA signings and trades without a commitment to rebuild, then that is a different story altogether.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 05:57 PM

6:15pm: The Red Sox and Dodgers are currently reviewing medical records, according to Alex Speier of WEEI.com (via Twitter). The deal would include Rubby De La Rosa, James Loney, Jerry Sands, Ivan De Jesus, and a top prospect, according to Gordon Edes of ESPNBoston.com (Twitter link).

Holy hell, that is a load of ****.

add Allen Webster to that list
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 06:32 PM

If so, that is on less team for Morneau to be traded to in the offseason...


He would look pretty good in Boston Red :) One door closes, another opens.


Interesting situation in Boston. They are really trying to clean up the clubhouse getting rid of troublemaker players: Beckett from last season (KFC and brewski), Stoppach (gone before) and A Gone from this (text messages) plus Crawford who never amounted to anything for them and Nicky. And Danny will have an MLB job again.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 07:00 PM

Padres fans are throwing themselves off the Coronado Bridge right now.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 08:12 PM

Padres fans are throwing themselves off the Coronado Bridge right now.


Nah they are all surfing off La Jolla Shores; only military and tourists go over that Bridge :)
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 08:45 PM

Padres fans are throwing themselves off the Coronado Bridge right now.


Nah they are all surfing off La Jolla Shores; only military and tourists go over that Bridge :)


Oh, I'm well aware. Lived there for eight years and crossed that bridge maybe five times.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:23 PM

will be interesting to see if Boston is a potential suitor for Morneau. They are really gonna need that middle of the lineup bat if this trade goes through