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#1 caninatl04

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 03:48 PM

Deal is reportedly for 5 years.
Maybe this will start to break up any starting pitcher log jam.
I’m guessing this means the Brewers were the unnamed fifth team in the Darvish sweepstakes.

My guess is that the Twins will end up with Cobb.
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Posted 22 January 2018 - 04:49 PM

Hope is still alive! Per Crasnick no decision yet.

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 04:58 PM

Cubs re-signed Duensing, so they must be out of the running.
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Posted 22 January 2018 - 06:49 PM

The article in the STRIB yesterday was great. Twins are interested in Napoli, Holliday, and Frazier.... and also Darvish, although no offer has been made. Pohlad says, "Who wouldn't be interested? He's a really cool guy."

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 07:14 PM

It is so hard to imagine what is going on this year... or any year with these free agent offers. 
 
There is no reason for information to get out accidentally. The front offices and agents are professionals... they should be able to remain tight lipped. Unless the release of information serves some sort of purpose. 
 
I could imagine his agent floating Milwaukee rumors to get Texas or Minnesota or the Cubs to bring the range of numbers discussed up. 
 
I can imagine Milwaukee floating Darvish rumors to get the range of numbers discussed down on Cobb or Lynn. 
 
I don't trust rumors but I do see them as a form of some sort of movement. Even if it is a weak attempt at leverage on either side. 
 
I can imagine... Minnesota having discussions at the highest dollar amount. I can imagine... the Twins not wanting to bid against themselves. I can imagine... teams backing off on the big scary long contracts that rarely work out for the length of them.
 
I can also imagine... Darvish wanting the Rangers to get serious so he can play where his American home is and where he has built some comfort. I don't like the waiting for the Rangers part because they just might. 
 
Meanwhile... I can also imagine teams that were not previously in... Like the Brewers getting in. Because maybe they are facing difficulties on the their other pursuits. Maybe they are saying that if Cobb is sticking to asking for 16 Million AAV and the Twins are discussing around 20 Million AAV on Darvish... Then thinking... Might as well call Darvish. I can imagine teams that were not previously in... getting in... because the price tag discussions are significantly lower than the original ask.
 
I also imagine... that the longer this goes... the worse it is for the Twins... because... time isn't our friend. Time allows the Rangers time to fail at other pursuits and just get the deal done. Time is time for more teams to jump in at the 11th hour. 
 
I'm hoping the Twins are working the phone hard on Plan B so they can say to Darvish... Sign now or we are trading for Plan B and then officially out. 
 
Waiting for Plan A... I'm starting to Blink.

 

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 07:24 PM

Cubs re-signed Duensing, so they must be out of the running.

And Gimenez pulls them back in.

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 07:32 PM

And Gimenez pulls them back in.


Makes you wonder if the Brewers offer is a ploy to make the Cubs overpay, then.
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Posted 22 January 2018 - 07:33 PM

 

And Gimenez pulls them back in.

 

Uff Da.

 

The Vikings lose and now this.:)

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 07:43 PM

 

And Gimenez pulls them back in.

Ugh ... I don't want Darvish to sign with the Cubs. I hope that's not a foretelling. 

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 07:51 PM

It is so hard to imagine what is going on this year... or any year with these free agent offers.

There is no reason for information to get out accidentally. The front offices and agents are professionals... they should be able to remain tight lipped. Unless the release of information serves some sort of purpose.

I could imagine his agent floating Milwaukee rumors to get Texas or Minnesota or the Cubs to bring the range of numbers discussed up.

I can imagine Milwaukee floating Darvish rumors to get the range of numbers discussed down on Cobb or Lynn.

I don't trust rumors but I do see them as a form of some sort of movement. Even if it is a weak attempt at leverage on either side.

I can imagine... Minnesota having discussions at the highest dollar amount. I can imagine... the Twins not wanting to bid against themselves. I can imagine... teams backing off on the big scary long contracts that rarely work out for the length of them.

I can also imagine... Darvish wanting the Rangers to get serious so he can play where his American home is and where he has built some comfort. I don't like the waiting for the Rangers part because they just might.

Meanwhile... I can also imagine teams that were not previously in... Like the Brewers getting in. Because maybe they are facing difficulties on the their other pursuits. Maybe they are saying that if Cobb is sticking to asking for 16 Million AAV and the Twins are discussing around 20 Million AAV on Darvish... Then thinking... Might as well call Darvish. I can imagine teams that were not previously in... getting in... because the price tag discussions are significantly lower than the original ask.

I also imagine... that the longer this goes... the worse it is for the Twins... because... time isn't our friend. Time allows the Rangers time to fail at other pursuits and just get the deal done. Time is time for more teams to jump in at the 11th hour.

I'm hoping the Twins are working the phone hard on Plan B so they can say to Darvish... Sign now or we are trading for Plan B and then officially out.

Waiting for Plan A... I'm starting to Blink.

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 08:04 PM

Gimenez just signed with the Cubs; so his connection to Darvish certainly won't help the Twins any longer.

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 08:14 PM

I say you're a dreamer.


You’re going to get him deported.
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Posted 22 January 2018 - 08:18 PM

I say you're a dreamer.

im not the only one

Edited by Sconnie, 22 January 2018 - 08:18 PM.

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 08:30 PM

 

im not the only one

 

Actually... I am the only one. 

 

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 09:56 PM

It is so hard to imagine what is going on this year... or any year with these free agent offers.

There is no reason for information to get out accidentally. The front offices and agents are professionals... they should be able to remain tight lipped. Unless the release of information serves some sort of purpose.

I could imagine his agent floating Milwaukee rumors to get Texas or Minnesota or the Cubs to bring the range of numbers discussed up.

I can imagine Milwaukee floating Darvish rumors to get the range of numbers discussed down on Cobb or Lynn.

I don't trust rumors but I do see them as a form of some sort of movement. Even if it is a weak attempt at leverage on either side.

I can imagine... Minnesota having discussions at the highest dollar amount. I can imagine... the Twins not wanting to bid against themselves. I can imagine... teams backing off on the big scary long contracts that rarely work out for the length of them.

I can also imagine... Darvish wanting the Rangers to get serious so he can play where his American home is and where he has built some comfort. I don't like the waiting for the Rangers part because they just might.

Meanwhile... I can also imagine teams that were not previously in... Like the Brewers getting in. Because maybe they are facing difficulties on the their other pursuits. Maybe they are saying that if Cobb is sticking to asking for 16 Million AAV and the Twins are discussing around 20 Million AAV on Darvish... Then thinking... Might as well call Darvish. I can imagine teams that were not previously in... getting in... because the price tag discussions are significantly lower than the original ask.

I also imagine... that the longer this goes... the worse it is for the Twins... because... time isn't our friend. Time allows the Rangers time to fail at other pursuits and just get the deal done. Time is time for more teams to jump in at the 11th hour.

I'm hoping the Twins are working the phone hard on Plan B so they can say to Darvish... Sign now or we are trading for Plan B and then officially out.

Waiting for Plan A... I'm starting to Blink.

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 11:28 PM

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 11:53 PM

 

And Gimenez pulls them back in.

No more Giiminez makes up for losing Darvish. OK not really. But thank god. 


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Posted 23 January 2018 - 05:00 AM

Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.


Wait till he gets going!
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Posted 23 January 2018 - 07:30 AM

 

Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.

 

Exactly!!!

 

Following Free Agent Rumors produces the same feeling as this.

 

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 07:45 AM

Following Free Agent Rumors produces the same feeling as this.

I thought the parallel being offered was to your writing, but nevermind.

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