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#61 Taildragger8791

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 11:07 AM

It's hard to be sold on Cousins at that price. This is going to cost the Vikings a key player or two elsewhere on the roster and Cousins hasn't proven to be the type of QB to cover up deficiencies elsewhere. If you could get Teddy at half that price and he provides at least 80% of the production he'd go so much further.


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Posted 13 March 2018 - 11:09 AM

Now solidify the offensive and defensive line and the Vikings should be all set. It will be interesting how Cousins performs with a team around him that actually has talent.

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 11:29 AM

 

It's hard to be sold on Cousins at that price. This is going to cost the Vikings a key player or two elsewhere on the roster and Cousins hasn't proven to be the type of QB to cover up deficiencies elsewhere. If you could get Teddy at half that price and he provides at least 80% of the production he'd go so much further.

 

I'm going to have to disagree with you because the way the salary CAP has increased each year. Since 2012 it's increased by at least $10 million from the season before. The Vikings were roughly $13 Million under the CAP last season so that carries over to 2018, which will allow them to structure the deal in a way where the first year of the deal has a higher CAP hit. The Vikings have roughly $47 Million in CAP space this offseason and from reports the first year of the deal could be in the $35-$37 Million range. If it's $35 Million the first season the remaining two years it will be in the $24 - $25 Million range. There will be plenty of room for the team to sign players they deem necessary. The biggest challenge will continue to be drafting and developing players. To have continued success in any sport drafting players to replace aging and expensive players is the only way to remain competitive. 

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 11:51 AM

It's hard to be sold on Cousins at that price. This is going to cost the Vikings a key player or two elsewhere on the roster and Cousins hasn't proven to be the type of QB to cover up deficiencies elsewhere. If you could get Teddy at half that price and he provides at least 80% of the production he'd go so much further.


I liked Teddy a lot and he was the guy I wanted in the draft all along.

But he couldn't or wouldn't throw downfield. From Ponder to Bridgewater to Bradford that was a problem, either they couldn't throw down field or were too cautious to do so, I don't want hesitant QBs.

And the Vikings likely don't have to lose a key player. Mike Florio had a good rundown on dollar allocation for the Vikings a week ago in regards to Cousins and what the Vikings have left for the rest of the team. The only guys they have to worry about extending now really are Barr, Hendricks, Hunter and Diggs. If they do it right they can probably extend all of them in the next couple of years, but really, what are the odds that in the next couple of years none of the four are going to stumble and not be worth extending? Pretty low, the odds are that one or more aren't going to make it two-three more years as studs.
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#65 Vanimal46

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 01:00 PM

Bradford to Arizona.
Keenum to Denver.
Cousins to Minnesota.

And poor Teddy waiting for a call. Probably from the Jets.
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Posted 13 March 2018 - 01:13 PM

https://www.1500espn...rn-bridgewater/

 

Teddy and the Jets.


#67 Mike Sixel

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 02:30 PM

I really like Teddy, but I endorse this move.
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Posted 13 March 2018 - 03:29 PM

I hope they front loaded it. If they did....perfect start to the offseason.

Love it either way though.

Edited by TheLeviathan, 13 March 2018 - 03:30 PM.

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 07:23 AM

The Vikings have lost Keenum, Bradford, Bridgewater and McKinnon. All of those guys can likely be replaced with little to no issue. All but Bridgewater look like they are going to start and Teddy might end up starting if he can beat out a geriatric QB. It's been awhile, but the Vikings might load up on compensatory draft picks in 2019. 

 

I believe they are weighted on salary and playing time. Keenum and Bradford sure are going to help the Vikings case in the salary requirement and hopefully the playing time requirement. MicKinnon looks to be the starter in SF at the moment.

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#70 Mike Sixel

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 09:08 AM

Bradford cancels out cousins for draft pick determination, so they should get a third for keenum. My guys is they sign two more players, cancelling out the gain from McKinnon and Bridgewater. They might lose another player or two, netting them a late pick or two. At least that's my guess right now

One of the best opening day rosters in years. Now go get 'em.


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Posted 14 March 2018 - 03:48 PM

The Vikes are set at QB.



Cousins - Siemian - Sloter
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Posted 14 March 2018 - 04:57 PM

I'm a fan of Cousins, though to be honest, a big part of me wanted to keep Keenum and Teddy both with fair contracts and bumps for Teddy. But Cousins really does check boxes the other 2 simply can't, at least with certainty. I get Cousins isn't perfect. And I get the argument that if he was so good why did Washington trade for Smith and let him walk? But Washington is also probably the most dysfunctional franchise in the league since Snyder took over.

Losing McKinnon hurts. But if losing a backup RB is the worst that happens to your team, you are in pretty good shape!

They will sign an OL, Berger or otherwise, and very possibly a CB to pair/compete with Alexander and Newman, (who I think will be back again). After that, it's some fliers on guys rebounding, coming off another team's practice squad, or just pushed off a roster but with some upside. They will keep the cap healthy for extensions and the draft.

BTW, really like the trade for Trevor Siemian. Little cost, experience, some mobility and even a little potential maybe.
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Posted 15 March 2018 - 01:14 PM

Well, ink has been put to paper and Cousins is officially a Viking.


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Posted 15 March 2018 - 01:14 PM

Vikings must be banking on the salary cap continually rising. I figured they would front load it for the upcoming season.
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Posted 15 March 2018 - 01:21 PM

Vikings must be banking on the salary cap continually rising. I figured they would front load it for the upcoming season.


Me too, but this tells me they must plan on other significant signings this off-season, which is good news, IMO.
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#76 Vanimal46

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Posted 15 March 2018 - 01:27 PM

Me too, but this tells me they must plan on other significant signings this off-season, which is good news, IMO.


Yeah I'm all for it. As we know, it can all come crashing down quickly. The pieces are in place now to go all in.
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Posted 15 March 2018 - 02:34 PM

Sounds like Sheldon Richardon is in town visiting with the Vikings as well.


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Posted 15 March 2018 - 02:35 PM

Looks like the Vikings are saving salary cap room for another signing. We need a 3 technique DT pretty badly and could also use a C/G and a safety.How about some combination of Mike Pouncey (he could play C and move Elflein to G), Sheldon Richardson at DT and/or Eric Reid at S? 


#79 Mike Sixel

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Posted 15 March 2018 - 03:14 PM

Need a CB more than safety, but my priorities were....

QB
DL
OG
CB
DL
S
OT

Rumor has it they are moving Remmers inside, making OT a top priority.
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One of the best opening day rosters in years. Now go get 'em.


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Posted 16 March 2018 - 02:38 PM

Sheldon Richardson.... Wow
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One of the best opening day rosters in years. Now go get 'em.