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#81 Deduno Abides

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:16 PM

"It was a dark and stormy offseason..."


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:17 PM

 

Can't they DFA him? Nobody would take his contract if he went on waivers and he'd need to report to Roch to collect his money wouldn't he? At least he'd get innings and could prove he's worth something or not.

 

Nope.Because of service time he can elect to become a free agent, with the Twins eating the $32M

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:19 PM

 

This will make some interesting situations come Spring Training:

 

The fact that the Twins have offered arbitration to and agreed to contracts with Grossman, Adrianza, Escobar and need a back up catcher, and Vargas is out of options, they cannot go with an 8 man bullpen, unless they make a trade.

 

Under contract and out of options starters: Santana, Gibson, Hughes

Under contract and starters with options:Mejia, May, Berrios

Under contract and out of options relievers:Rodney, Reed, Duke, Pressly, Boshers, Kinley (effectively)

Under contract and starters with options: Duffey, Rogers, Hildy, Chargois, Enns, Slegers, Moya

 

I suspect that Berrios starting is a given.There are 6 RPs without options in the pen.Unless they get another starter Hughes/Mejia/May are fighting for 2 spots in the rotation and the loser will get the last spot on the pen or get optioned.This means that only one of Duffey, Rogers, Chargois, Hildy can start in the majors, unless they make a trade.

 

That's why the Twins should be all over the phone trying to make trades at this point.

 

The bullpen is often a numbers game, it's nice to be on the right side of that, but you're right that there is going to be quite a crunch for roster spots.I don't see how Rogers and Hildy are left off unless they implode this spring, but I guess we'll see what happens.


#84 Mr. Brooks

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:28 PM

Great signing.
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Posted 13 January 2018 - 10:20 PM

 

Nope.Because of service time he can elect to become a free agent, with the Twins eating the $32M

You make this sound like "a bad thing"--it isn't!


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 10:43 PM

Slightly bigger point to 2019

Castro $8M
Santana $14M option (with vesting?)
Rodney $.25M
Pineda $8M
Hughes $13.2M
Park $3M (unless someone can show where it has been voided)

Sorry to say but that's $54.95M for those 6...3 of who may not contribute at all

Just a little sun shower on an otherwise Bright Sunshiny Day!


Did you seriously list Rodney’s $250k

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 10:51 PM

 

Did you seriously list Rodney’s $250k

 

A quarter's still a quarter:)

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 04:13 AM

Time to trade Rodney. He surely will be whining if he was promised to be the closer, and if he closes instead of Reed.......... argh. Reed as an Andrew Miller? I guess I still can't bring myself to accept that Rodney will be the Twins' closer. 

Edited by h2oface, 14 January 2018 - 04:22 AM.


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 06:01 AM

Good to see the Twins "arming" themselves in preparation for the 2018 season.Nice pick-up.

 


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 06:31 AM

Slightly bigger point to 2019

Castro $8M
Santana $14M option (with vesting?)
Rodney $.25M
Pineda $8M
Hughes $13.2M
Park $3M (unless someone can show where it has been voided)

Sorry to say but that's $54.95M for those 6...3 of who may not contribute at all

Just a little sun shower on an otherwise Bright Sunshiny Day!


I keep getting a different total than you for those six.
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Posted 14 January 2018 - 06:55 AM

 

Twins should have no problem pushing to $135mil if a Darvish deal is on acceptable terms (especially years).

I'm not much of a fan of multiyear deals for free agent relievers, but it does seem like they got a good deal compared to earlier signings.

Totally agree on the multi-year thing, and also the good deal aspect of this signing. In fact, I like getting Reed much more than adding Rodney. Seems like a better fit for the club's needs.

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 07:31 AM

 

Time to trade Rodney. He surely will be whining if he was promised to be the closer, and if he closes instead of Reed.......... argh. Reed as an Andrew Miller? I guess I still can't bring myself to accept that Rodney will be the Twins' closer. 

They already said Rodney is still the closer. 

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 07:36 AM

Can't they DFA him? Nobody would take his contract if he went on waivers and he'd need to report to Roch to collect his money wouldn't he? At least he'd get innings and could prove he's worth something or not.

not if he’s injured

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 07:47 AM

I don't get why we care about term, of course we would all rather sign Darvish to a 3 year 72 million dollar deal then 6 year 144 but we wouldn't be able to get 3 and 72 it would be more like 3 and 100 getting 3 extra years for 44 while not ideal might pay off and might not but it's only 44 additional dollars no matter what the actual structure of the contract is.The dollar amounts thrown around are not so crazy that we should be afraid, Darvish isn't Kershaw or Santana in his prime but based on the contracts thrown around in the past you would think it would take 200-250 to get this done and it sounds like it will be nowhere near that.I'm already pumped and ready for the season to start with the Reed signing, lets finish off free agency with a bang.

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 08:40 AM

I'd rather see the Twins use Reed in the highest leverage situations (Like Andrew Miller) and let Rodney have the ninth.


Agreed. He will be their best reliever by far. Let's go to highest and best use.
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Posted 14 January 2018 - 08:47 AM

Time to trade Rodney. He surely will be whining if he was promised to be the closer, and if he closes instead of Reed.......... argh. Reed as an Andrew Miller? I guess I still can't bring myself to accept that Rodney will be the Twins' closer.


Sigh. We are already slamming the character of a player before he has put on a Twins uniform.

Any man who has pitched successfully into their 40s has done so by being extremely dedicated to their craft continually learning and working hard. There are accounts from the DBacks and others that he has helped the younger pitchers on the team because that is how he was treated when he arrived. That points to a good teammate.

It is the Twins management that negotiated this deal and made commitments to Rodney. If they told him he would be used as a closer that is on them. Let’s question the wisdom of the front office. Rodney did not force them into the commitment.

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 09:15 AM

Sigh. We are already slamming the character of a player before he has put on a Twins uniform.

Mod note: While Fernando Rodney is undoubtedly affected by the signing of Reed, ditto the chances of signing Darvish, and it's fair to delve here into those baseball ramifications, I'd like to ask everyone that we not go from one tangent into a further tangent about Rodney's character or reactions to it. It's a fair topic if someone wants to launch a new thread, either as a baseball topic in this Twins forum area, or as a sociological one in the Sports Bar forum if you're of that bent. The subject here is the signing of Addison Reed, broadly construed.

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 09:35 AM

 

I keep getting a different total than you for those six.

 

Forgot to include Reed Thanks for the cross check

 

Reed $8.5M (Guesstimate on how contract is broken down)

Castro $8M

Santana $14M option (with vesting?)

Rodney $.25M

Pineda $8M

Hughes $13.2M

Park $3M (unless someone can show where it has been voided)

 

$54.95M

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 10:14 AM

 

Forgot to include Reed Thanks for the cross check

 

Reed $8.5M (Guesstimate on how contract is broken down)

Castro $8M

Santana $14M option (with vesting?)

Rodney $.25M

Pineda $8M

Hughes $13.2M

Park $3M (unless someone can show where it has been voided)

 

$54.95M

Chances are that three of them may not be doing anything with the Twins in 2019.Rodney (with his meager buyout), along with Hughes and Park.

 

If Rodney works out in a reliever role, he could be a bargain for 2018 and 2019. The Hughes extension and Park signings were mistakes the new FO is going to have to deal with, though I thought I read Park left money on the table in order to leave.  

 

Anyway, I think the Reed signing is a very smart signing.

Edited by jimmer, 14 January 2018 - 10:21 AM.


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 10:52 AM

Chances are that three of them may not be doing anything with the Twins in 2019.Rodney (with his meager buyout), along with Hughes and Park.
 
If Rodney works out in a reliever role, he could be a bargain for 2018 and 2019. The Hughes extension and Park signings were mistakes the new FO is going to have to deal with, though I thought I read Park left money on the table in order to leave.  
 
Anyway, I think the Reed signing is a very smart signing.


I like the Reed signing a lot. If Rodney bombs out they have another option for closer. In the meantime he can be a solid setup man. The one silver lining is that Hughes is only under contract through 2019. If he pitches well this season (a big if) they could always trade him to a team looking for a filler starter.



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