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#41 Deduno Abides

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 02:36 PM

All else equal, a 17 year-old with a season in the GCL is a better signing than a 16 year-old who’s only played for his buscone.
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Posted 08 December 2017 - 02:42 PM

There are also 6 more prospects left that haven't signed.

 

One interesting fact/thought - Severino is the first prospect to sign for more than his initial bonus. Maybe the limits of the pool aren't as problematic as they are sometimes made out to be.

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 02:42 PM

If the 2017 and 2018 pools can't be combined, I think the int'l money sent to the M's was returned and the deal perhaps voided. 1.25 (remaining) + 1 (from M's) + 200K (for Braves prospect) = 2.45 Mil, which is awfully close to the announced terms.

 

Though Berardino's tweet conflicts with my thinking.

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 02:46 PM

Didn't Tampa trade for a bunch of bonus money? Maybe they'll throw in some of theirs when they trade Chris Archer to the Twins.

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 02:47 PM

Three of the guys left signed for over $1mil. I wouldn't be opposed to using the $1.25 (plus $.3mil bonus) to sign a couple of the 6 left. Might as well at this point.

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#46 Mike Sixel

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 02:51 PM

Three of the guys left signed for over $1mil. I wouldn't be opposed to using the $1.25 (plus $.3mil bonus) to sign a couple of the 6 left. Might as well at this point.


Or Marte
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There's always next year, or the next, or maybe by the time I'm Chief's age, I guess....


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 02:52 PM

 

I think Severino might be the only one of the Braves prospects who really improved their stock since signing.

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 03:08 PM

If I understand this all right, the Twins saved $3M from deciding not to sign Marte due to vision issues, and they were able to acquire C David Banuelos, OF Jacob Pearson, and INF Yunior Severino while using that $3M plus $1.5M from next year's international cap. Sounds like a good job to me!

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#49 Mike Sixel

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 03:10 PM

If I understand this all right, the Twins saved $3M from deciding not to sign Marte due to vision issues, and they were able to acquire C David Banuelos, OF Jacob Pearson, and INF Yunior Severino while using that $3M plus $1.5M from next year's international cap. Sounds like a good job to me!


They can't combine money for severino. They either need more this year, or spent next year's.
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Posted 08 December 2017 - 03:20 PM

By my count, of the top 8 released Braves prospects, three are still available. Here they are with their BA ranking (compared to each other).

 

1. Kevin Maitan, SS - signed by Angels

2. Yunior Severino, 2B- signed by Twins

3. Livan Soto, SS - signed by Angels

4. Yefri Del Rosario, RHP - signed by Royals

5. Ji-Hwan Bae, SS - UNSIGNED

6. Abrahan Gutierrez, C - signed by Phillies

7. Juan Contreras, RHP - UNSIGNED

8. Yenci Pena, SS - UNSIGNED

 

So Twins could definitely go after one of the remaining three. Do I have that all right?

 

 

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 03:27 PM

It seems this may not be a done deal.

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#52 Tom Froemming

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 03:37 PM

 

It seems this may not be a done deal.

I believe It's just pending a team physical. We all know how that went with Marte, but I'd be surprised if anything came up.


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 03:39 PM

Well, I guess in Rhett's report he leaves things pretty open:

 

"Minnesota's deal with Severino is worth $2.5 million, pending a physical, according to MLB.com's Jesse Sanchez. The Twins, however, have not confirmed or announced the signing."


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 03:41 PM

 

By my count, of the top 8 released Braves prospects, three are still available. Here they are with their BA ranking (compared to each other).

 

1. Kevin Maitan, SS - signed by Angels

2. Yunior Severino, 2B- signed by Twins

3. Livan Soto, SS - signed by Angels

4. Yefri Del Rosario, RHP - signed by Royals

5. Ji-Hwan Bae, SS - UNSIGNED

6. Abrahan Gutierrez, C - signed by Phillies

7. Juan Contreras, RHP - UNSIGNED

8. Yenci Pena, SS - UNSIGNED

 

So Twins could definitely go after one of the remaining three. Do I have that all right?

 

This is a good resource: https://www.baseball...UrLFE96yV704.97

 

I would include Juan Carlos Negret on your list. He's probably the best one left.

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 04:24 PM

 

 

I think Severino might be the only one of the Braves prospects who really improved their stock since signing.

 

Not at all. Livan Soto was incredible, but he's a 70-glove shortstop, so he wouldn't really appeal the same way to the Twins as Severino, who's a certain 2B and not a SS.

 

Yefri Del Rosario certainly improved his scouting report as well. BA had an excellent Facebook Live that addressed this, as the normal amounts that you'd consider at July 2 don't come into play right now as only certain teams may be interested in certain profiles AND have money available.

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 04:24 PM

 

This is a good resource: https://www.baseball...UrLFE96yV704.97

 

I would include Juan Carlos Negret on your list. He's probably the best one left.

 

Negret's a Royal.

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 04:27 PM

 

By my count, of the top 8 released Braves prospects, three are still available. Here they are with their BA ranking (compared to each other).

 

1. Kevin Maitan, SS - signed by Angels

2. Yunior Severino, 2B- signed by Twins

3. Livan Soto, SS - signed by Angels

4. Yefri Del Rosario, RHP - signed by Royals

5. Ji-Hwan Bae, SS - UNSIGNED

6. Abrahan Gutierrez, C - signed by Phillies

7. Juan Contreras, RHP - UNSIGNED

8. Yenci Pena, SS - UNSIGNED

 

So Twins could definitely go after one of the remaining three. Do I have that all right?

 

I mentioned this in my article on the move over at Puckett's Pond, but Pena and Contreras would both make sense. Pena's always been a guy who profiled as a 3B, but he played SS in the DSL (and not well) due to the load of middle infield the Braves had in the GCL this year. Contreras is a fire-balling arm that doesn't have a ton of polish behind that yet, so he'd be a lottery ticket, but they've done well with that profile recently in the system.

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 04:28 PM

 

The winning quote regarding Severino comes from CBS:

 

"Although it's unlikely that the infielder will see the major-league diamond in 2018, he projects to be a key part of the future in Minnesota."

 

Where do they find those people? 

 

He is a switch hitter, but as a lefty he hit a lofty .303/.365/.451.That said he is probably the 8th or so best middle infielder the Twins have...

 

And he'd have the highest offensive upside of any of them...

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 04:29 PM

Negret's a Royal.


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#60 drjim

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 04:44 PM

Not at all. Livan Soto was incredible, but he's a 70-glove shortstop, so he wouldn't really appeal the same way to the Twins as Severino, who's a certain 2B and not a SS.

Yefri Del Rosario certainly improved his scouting report as well. BA had an excellent Facebook Live that addressed this, as the normal amounts that you'd consider at July 2 don't come into play right now as only certain teams may be interested in certain profiles AND have money available.


I was hoping you'd weigh in.
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