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#41 birdwatcher

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 01:46 PM

 

He's been very high on Buxton, Kepler and Rosario (he might be the high man on Rosario). He did think Berrios' height would move him to the pen but I think he's been, more or less, fair to the Twins. He also was the high man on our system last offseason, ranking us #11 while BA had us around #20 or so.

 

I think he didn't like our haul b/c the prospects we got back were meh types. At best, we probably got a back-up defensive catcher and a low level avg OF or 4th OFer.

 

 

Yeah, I think your examples support an opinion that KLAW has been fair. If he's been unfair and yet thought the Twin's system was a top third system, then yay for us.

 

IMO, if we get a superb defensive MLB backup C and a MLB 4th OF, that would be a very nice result.

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 03:23 PM

 

I did not see this anywhere in the string, so I thought I would add that Sickels updated his Top 20 Twins Prospects for 2018.

 

https://www.minorlea...spects-for-2018

 

The aspect I like about Sickels is his grades help with an understanding of the overall quality of talent and also the overall depth of any meaningful amount (C or better grades, which include prospects viewed as having at least a chance to become role players). 

 

I like to compare the Twins pipeline against its AL Central rivals. Some interesting things so far, the caveat being he's not yet updated CWS, DET, and CLE:

 

1) Sickles gives grades of B- or higher to 21 Twins prospects! This is a big number. For example, in 2017, the top-ranked Braves had 18 B- or higher prospects. The Twins had 14 in 2017.

 

2) Compare this to his 2018 KC list. The Twins have 9 prospects graded HIGHER than KC's highest graded prospect (B-). Of the 21 Twins prospects, only 3 of them graded as low as C+/B-. Of KC's 11 prospects, 7 of the 11 were C+/B- guys. Think about this. That means in Sickle's opinion, 18 Twins prospects grade out higher than all but 4 prospects in KC's system.

 

3) Comparing the Twins 21 B- or better grades to its division rivals using 2017 grades shows CLE with 15, one more than the Twin's' 14. After that, the fast-improving CWS were at 11, KC at 8, and DET at 6. That said, I'd guess both DET and CWS will look considerably better in 2018.

 

But still, 21 prospects grading out at B- or above indicates a system with pretty solid quality in very solid quantities.

 

4. Additionally, he grades another 14 prospects as C+ guys. His C+ list includes Granite, Curtiss, Slegers, Jorge, Rosario, and Stewart. So, that's 35 prospects at C+ or better. I don't think any team in the AL Central had even 20 guys graded this highly in 2017, including the Twins. All the encouraging minor league performances we saw last season added up I guess.

 

5. Another 27 prospects got a C grade. This includes guys like Chargois, Enns, Reed, and Melotakis. So that's 62 prospects in the system that one analyst thinks have at least enough going for them to eventually get a cup of coffee. And if you find his grades to be less than credible, you'll have to explain to me how Granite, Curtiss, Slegers, Jorge, Rosario, Chargois, and Enns--none of them graded out as among our top 21 prospects---have already sipped from a clubhouse coffee mug.

 

Quibble about his expertise if you wish, but how is this anything other than encouraging, right?

Edited by birdwatcher, 21 December 2017 - 03:34 PM.

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 03:28 PM

He put Royce Lewis's ETA at 2019? Damn, that'd be quick. I wouldn't complain if it actually happened, but that seems super accelerated.

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 03:38 PM

Also seems that the Palka and Dereck Rodriguez losses haven't hit his radar yet. And no word on Yunior Severino, which I'm pretty damn curious about.

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 03:39 PM

 

He put Royce Lewis's ETA at 2019? Damn, that'd be quick. I wouldn't complain if it actually happened, but that seems super accelerated.

 

Yeah, he's got a slew of guys pegged for 2018 or 2019.


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Posted 21 December 2017 - 03:40 PM

 

Also seems that the Palka and Dereck Rodriguez losses haven't hit his radar yet. And no word on Yunior Severino, which I'm pretty damn curious about.

 

 

Goodrum too.


#47 Mr. Brooks

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 04:23 PM

Goodrum too.


And Rosario.

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 09:43 AM

The update just shuffled any Rule 5 guys. No change in guys that were acquired yet. John typically does that in February.

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 01:32 PM

 

Also seems that the Palka and Dereck Rodriguez losses haven't hit his radar yet. And no word on Yunior Severino, which I'm pretty damn curious about.

 

Severino was a C+ guy when he rated the Braves organization.I guess he just missed him in the update.


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Posted 26 December 2017 - 12:27 PM

 

He put Royce Lewis's ETA at 2019? Damn, that'd be quick. I wouldn't complain if it actually happened, but that seems super accelerated.

I noticed that also. What I have taken away from Lewis thus far is, his arm is not as strong as Buxton, but his hit tool is more advanced. He also has position versatility. Could be the fast mover we all want. Lewis to LF, Rosario to RF, and Kepler to 1B by 2019?

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#51 Mike Sixel

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Posted 17 January 2018 - 12:34 PM

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12:40 Most exciting prospect in the Twins system besides Royce Lewis?


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12:41 I think Akil Badoo is exciting, Wander Javier, think LaMonte Wade is real...lotta guys
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I don't know, it is a site to discuss sports, not airline safety.....maybe we should take it less seriously?